For the GTC style of play your grip should be light as a feather. The pendulum swing should be from the shoulder not elbow, arm hanging loosely. The dice should slip from your grip rather than you releasing them.

Now for the best advice I can give. Take the class. You can read all Franks books and commit every word to memory and they won’t do you a damn bit of good without knowing how to apply, correctly, the principals espoused in them.

Charly,

Glad to have you aboard and part of the GTC family. You have already received some excellent advice. Alligator Rose and I will add our 2 cents worth. A class is imperative and most important. Only here can you have some of the finest instructors take a look at your throw and help you on your journey to becoming the advantage player we know you can become.

We do have 6 classes a year–5 left in 2017. Classes for the rest of this year are in Memphis (near) Tunica Mississippi, in Shreveport LA, in Vegas and in Atlantic City. Hopefully one of these will fit your schedule. The exact dates are posted on the GTC web site. Call Dom at 866 SET DICE and he can sign you up. Not only will you learn more than you ever realized, but the class is a lot of fun.

Hope to see you soon.

Rose and Doc

Well said Dr. C. Let me also say that if you are practicing 40 hours a week, you are practicing way too much. Especially if you have not taken a class. The problem is many fold. First and foremost, if you are practicing 40 hours a week and you are not throwing the dice correctly, then that’s a lot of muscle memory you are training yourself to throw the dice incorrectly. Why practice the wrong way. Come in and let us show you how to do it the right way. Also, that many hours will cause some serious fatigue. Imagine a NFL player practicing that many hours a week. He would die from exhaustion. 1-2 hours a day is plenty if you are doing things right. Hope to see you in a class soon.

Midnight

Get two old dice and glue they together. This will show you how year dice are looking threw the air before they hit the wall .Try throwing into a small bowel also see how close they stop from each other .There is a game of some sorts on old post that you may want to try also .
Good Rolling.

Hey CharlyF…. I’m a student of GTC and have been to 2 classes in the last 2 years…. I’ll vouch for Dom & the GTC crew without reservation!!! The classes are non-threatening, fun & worth your time. I’ve received invaluable advice & direction with my technique, mental approach and betting startegies. It has become a family that I look forward working with every year. The result is that I am more successful at the tables. Feel free to reach out if you’d like to talk or email.

CharlyF,
Regarding above, yup, yup yup. This is a fun, but sometimes frustrating journey. In my time with our GTC family, I’ve learned and relearned key aspects, but most recently, I’ve gotten, with the help of many, how to better evaluate what I’m doing right/wrong, how to adjust at the table, or perhaps when to walk away.

My recent forays have relied on that heavily when I’ve dug a little hole before figuring out the table and coming back with confidence. That is what you can get here. A great family all on the same journey with the same goals.

Best of luck on your journey.

Have you tried the two glued dice thing yet . Also is the gripper helping any or have you stopped using it ? also if you grip the dice first and then put them in the gripper you may tell if you are still doing it right .This is a journey .
Good Rolling. 😀 😀

Finished the class and now I understand what is going on with my dice. Thanks for all the help.

"CharlyF" wrote: Finished the class and now I understand what is going on with my dice. Thanks for all the help.

so what was the solution to your double pitch issue?

Evolve,
Front fingers were a little bit off, causing one dice to rotate faster.

"CharlyF" wrote: Evolve,
Front fingers were a little bit off, causing one dice to rotate faster.

was hoping for some insight to when I get double pitch, but I don’t have your issue.
I’m practicing at home with a gripper all the time. I should be lined up.

Its really hard to correct mistakes when you don’t know what’s happening.
I’m pretty good at seeing what is wrong a lot of the time, but I have times where I have no clue.
If you’re not at class and there is no one to watch you, I don’t see a good way to correct a mistake that you cant identify.
Problem with that is you will keep practicing with something that is off which seems like a bad idea, and that’s why I’m always trying to analyze when something goes wrong. I want to learn from the mistake and correct it asap.

Welcome CharlyF and good luck!
Evolve’
Possibly the pressure from the front three fingers is uneven. I’m sure one or more of the instructors will chime in.

Catch you later!