My Son went and played the other day like when it was 102 out and getting hotter . He liked it because the workers did not care for there were few players out there . He and his friend got to tee off with 3 to 5 balls . He said that they had a great time except for the SUN Burn they both got .I think they started playing after 12 so it is warm here in Phx.
Good Rolling. 😀 😀

Here is a "golf " story for you–well kind of. Being much, MUCH younger than I am now. A girlfriend and I were in Palm Springs and it was a pistol hot day. We were staying at a hotel right next to a private golf club. My friend was a very good golfer and kept lamenting about that a beautiful golf course was just going to waste because no one was playing.

She wanted to play but I am not a golfer at all. I thought she would go ask and because it was private they wouldn’t let us play. Wrong! Nobody was on the course so they didn’t care and I think my friend also sweet talked them. Wow, now I had to play golf! Well, I was a very good softball player so I had a couple of bats in the trunk of the car. I got one out and asked the guy if I could use it. Ordinarily no, but since no one was on the course they didn’t care about that either. I hit the golf ball on the fairways with my softball bat and my friend used her golf clubs. I am pretty deadly with a bat so it was a close game! 😀 I borrowed my friends putter when we were on the green and this is where I lost. Now that was a blistering day but a fun day of golf—kind of!

getagrip, Did you hit the ball from the lie, or pick it up and bat it? Either way, a great golf story!

Doc

Here we fish an awful lot for about everything but mostly Walleye.
I fish a few tournaments but mostly now days I get to go pre-fish
them with my son or his group.

It would nice to tell you I teach them a trick or two, but the truth is
catching fish and then catching fish when you have to is not the same
thing. HIs group is close to $200,000 winning this year which speaks
to their ability.

The reason they do so well is because they have mastered so many
ways of fishing and have such good records they can reflect on
hundreds and hundreds of days on the water and how to use the
hundreds of different baits they use. What worked today, may not
work tomorrow, or what worked on this table, may not work on’
that table.

I view craps exactly like that, I must have a good shot, but table
conditions change, I change, so I have to take what I have learned
and apply it to the table today, i don’t think you can expect everyday
to be a carbon copy of yesterday, particularly if you play on different
tables and different days under different conditions.

gman

Hardline,
No, I picked it up and hit it. Just like hitting infield practice but with all the power I could muster on most shots.

Interesting story getagrip.

Catch you later!

Golf has mulligans, craps does not. Right gman? 😆 😆 Set44

I played lots of baseball, basketball, and in my 30’s lots of softball

My sports experience has always helped me remain calm under the worst of craps table conditions.

It’s taught me breathing exercises to relax myself right before the shot.

It gave me the competitive fire to want to win.

Basketball gave me a shooter’s mentality — just keep shooting until you get it going — sooner or later, all of the practice will pay off

I could go on and on, but i think you get the point(s)

Lion, you are so right–what we have done in sports in the past will be of great help in our craps playing journey.

Brings back memories of my high school basketball coach. He really worked on our defense to get it as perfect as possible. Why? Because if your shooting is off your defense will keep you in the game.

Kinda reminds you of using the five count and the GTC betting strategy to keep you in the game.

Doc

And, craps is like baseball in a few things ….

–baseball – I’ll hit a line drive screamer to centerfield and it’s caught for an out ….. or, a little weak dribbler down third base line turns into a single/base hit

— craps — perfect shot, and it’s a 7-out …..or, dice slips out of hand or make a mistake somewhere in the shot, and it’s becomes a "hardway"

But, over a long season, you’re hitting "average" tells you what you are (Rod Carew or Mario Mendoza …or in between) — similar to your wins/losses on the craps table over the long haul

Lots of good points here. For myself, I played a lot of sports into my 40’s. I was a pretty fair softball pitcher, especially slow pitch. I found that when I played from SR1 or 2 I could use a very similar delivery as I used when I pitched softball. I don’t mean to imply that you need to be an accomplished athlete to be a good dice controller but it appears that many of the same thought processes and some physical motions are similar. The thing I take away from this conversation is the role of good coachability, consistent, thoughtful practice and a positive attitude have in the success of any athletic endeavor.

@ Lion… or Steve Bartman!!! 😮

@ Butcher… you hit it on the head, and it’s so fitting for me. "….. thoughtful practice and a positive attitude have in the success of any athletic endeavor."

Mindless practice, of which I’ve done so much of, is barely above worthless and arguably harmful. There are so many times that I catch myself hitting a number and absolutely not knowing that I even threw the dice. I’m really trying to improve that, and catch myself many times, but I’m really working at the entire mindset when I walk up to the practice table. I try to do a "thoughtful" shot each and every time. It makes a huge difference.

Great thread!

"HardNine" wrote: Mindless practice, of which I’ve done so much of, is barely above worthless and arguably harmful.

Hardnine,

Agree that mindless practice is harmful. Sure fire way to ingrain bad habits that hurt our toss. I like several short but focused sessions each day rather than long sessions. Of course, for some people, their schedules may not permit this type of practice.

This is a valuable thread! Thanks Doc!

Steve Bartman — man on the run forever — never to see Chicago or eat Geno’s East Pizza ever again