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    Big Skinny Learning Curve in AC

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    I’m sitting back reflecting on my 5 days of Craps Play this past week in Atlantic City. First of all I want to say thank you to the whole GTC crew for letting me come and hangout all day Friday at the open house and Meet n Greet. I really had a good time with like minded people. It was a good vibe and Dom’s 41 was like Deja Vu from a roll he had at the Taj about 9 years ago. The class was small but good. There were some students who really looked good on Mon. and Tues. I played 6 session and wound up down $400. It was totally on me. If AC had moderate rolls and some Good rolls like it did this past week I would be there more often. Overall it was a great time but like Uncle Dom says, "Winning is the most fun."

    The guy that mastered his game two weeks ago and who really played a good month of craps was just not around. I wish he was cause it would of been a much more fun week. Craps play wise I did not get the money out there when I needed to. I ran into multiple situations where I would be up on 3 or 4 numbers and numbers would start repeating and I wouldn’t be on them. I knew I needed to place these numbers and get aggressive on the come bets. I had a 22 roll and only had 3 hits. There were a lot of crap numbers too. On a few rolls I didn’t get 8 hits until about 25 rolls. Nick had a nice 31 that I didn’t play TBS on because it was at the $25 table. I liked the way he played that roll. I took minimal risk and played pretty even the whole trip. I played a very generic game and did not care for it. I’m still confident I’ll get to where I want to be and I damn sure have plenty magical nights in me.!I’m getting better with different situations that come about by using The Big Skinny. Dom’s 41 was on a $25 table so I abandoned TBS and totally butchered the roll place betting. He started killing the Hardways so I still wound up doing alright. I made money on the good rolls but not what I should have. It’s a rough game sometimes and you have to just learn from your mistakes. I was looking at this quote earlier and this what I’m focusing on.

    "Like any strategy for betting one needs to remain flexible and vigilant at the tables. For example, if you have 3 bets on the table (PL and 2 come) and are hitting a number repeatedly that you are not on, you need to consider getting up on that number. You could take some odds off one of your bets to place the number you are hitting, you could take additional money from the rails to place the number, you could just risk additional come bets until you get up on the numbers you are hitting or you could decide to stay the course and wait to hit the numbers you are on. These are decisions one has to be prepared to make at the table based on your knowledge of your own game, bankroll and tolerance for risk. I and no one else can give you a foolproof formula for all situations. You need to understand your own game and decide how best to risk your money to make money." Skinny

    As far as the shot goes, I got some great work in with Pitt Boss on Friday but unfortunately it didn’t translate to the tables. I did a bad job of executing but I recognized it and became a big blocker for guy’s whose shot’s were looking good. B-Man had made me aware of my wrist years ago causing my dice to land on edge and pretty much eliminating my edge. I’m Working on some things to get the dice to land flat and repel straight back. I have to fix that first and foremost.

    Great seeing everybody. I hope everyone enjoyed in AC.

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    Posted by: brothelman on March 7, 2015, 6:24 am

    Desire can cure all for the well informed, that is you just do it.

    Believe believe believe.

    Posted by: Jumbotron Ron on March 7, 2015, 7:38 am

    Just had a roll on the boardwalk where I had 7 hits on a 14 roll. Made some $.

    Posted by: Jumbotron Ron on March 7, 2015, 7:42 am

    4 hits on the 5, 2 on the 8, 1 on 9

    Posted by: Jumbotron Ron on March 7, 2015, 8:15 am

    Next roll 8 hits in 15 rolls. 8 and 5 and 3 hits on the 4. Worked 2 come outs. I’m getting in a good grove. I feel a lot more comfortable without instructor eagle eyes on me. That’s on me though. I have to have no fear regardless of circumstances. Danger is real…fear is optional.

    Posted by: Jumbotron Ron on March 7, 2015, 10:07 am

    Rolled a 14,15,15,12 n wound up up $497. I’ll take it. Off to the next spot. I had to get back up to bat. I was so unhappy with my play I needed to get in n do what I can do. Good discipline n repeaters is my kind of night. Wasn’t a Hardway night for me. The 5-3, 6-2, 3-2 was the most prevalent. Probably lost $70 on Hardways but that’s ok cause I danced around then. When they do drop a few in a row there is a lot of Big $$$$ to be made. I shy’d away from them once I saw they weren’t hitting. The only time I hit them was when I wasn’t betting on them.

    Early in the session I had $15 pass on a 3rd point come out. $15 w/30 odds on 4. $15 come on 5 $30 odds, 15 on 6 and 8 $30 odds on each. $30 Hard 4 $30 Hard 8. I thought U should work the come out. I shook myself off n rolled the Hard 4 n only collected $15 off my flat bet. I worked the odds on every come out after that n I definitely made money on them. It was a good decicision.

    Why am I at a $15 min non smoking table betting $30 odds U ask? I showed up at 3 days b4 the class to scout these tables I never really played. Had a good battle n walked after 6 turns with the dice up $150. I couldn’t break it open but I envisioned myself at this table with racks full of chips. Everyday during the past week I played at this casino the table was closed. It was open tonight! It was $15 n non smoking. I felt more comfortable with the $30 odds to start. It probably cost me $200 if I would of bet $50 to start but U can’t necessarily say that because I was comfortable at $30. Highest I got was taking 2 hits on an 8 with $15 125 odds and having a 6 at 15 with $125 odds with a $60 place bet. This was on a cf’er roll. He slaughtered the 6/8 I was quick on the 8 but slow on the 6. I tried to rush that place bet up there for 1 more hit but in reality odds should had been maxed 2 6’s ago with 1 hit on a $150 place bet. I played it decent but far from perfect. When I play it perfect I get excited!!

    Posted by: Jumbotron Ron on March 7, 2015, 11:13 am

    Pitt Boss sparked my brain to that picture in Sharpooter’s book. The one where the shooter pivots on the elbow. It gave me exact clarification where I wanted to land my dice n landing them there doesn’t allow me to twist my wrist. Good play tonight.

    Posted by: getagrip on March 7, 2015, 9:38 pm

    Nice report Ron! Thanks for all of the good reminders and information!

    I also have problems with dice landing flat and hitting the back wall exactly square and coming back the same. Think that is something that I will always have to continue to work on. Better now than it used to be so have hope of a permanent fix in the not too distant future!

    How many of you went straight for Sharpshooter’s book (if you have it) after reading this post? I know I did!! LOL! I am so attached to my dice influencing library that it is one of the few things I brought with me when I moved to Mexico!

    Posted by: Jumbotron Ron on March 8, 2015, 2:35 pm

    Glad U enjoyed it GetaGrip. I actually wrote that from the table. I was still navigating the table. You really can’t get more real time. It was funny cause it was an epiphany! When I thought about that illustration it became so much clearer. Pitt Boss is my boy so it’s no surprise that it came from him. I’m thankful he mentioned it. I’m making my dice land more in the middle of the table where my arm naturally swings rather than forcing them straight down the do not pass line. A personal adjustment.

    Posted by: OneMoonCircles on March 10, 2015, 6:36 am

    Jumbo,

    Do you twist the dice slightly because throwing across the middle the outside dice is closer to the wall and the twist will compensate some for that? I do that
    sometimes when the mixing bowl is a wider arch and there is much less flat wall forcing the dice to the middle of the table. Do you still stand square to the
    table or at a slight angle to establish a straight line?

    OMC

    Posted by: Jumbotron Ron on March 11, 2015, 8:11 am

    More right center closer to me. I have to work on my shot. I’ve been playing a lot the last 2 weeks and my shot has been inconsistent. I survived off decent craps play. I made my share of mistakes that cost me money. I’m trying to play the Big skinny to a tee but sometimes I get greedy and it cost. I had a 34 roll today and the ninth hit was the 4. I was supposed to Buy the 4 for buck but instead I placed the 8 for $60 on the 8. The 8 came Heavy early in the roll but that was 3rd hit on the 4. I should of bought the 4 for $100. Next roll 4. Cost me money not following Skinny’s well thought out plan. I was paid $110 instead of $305. Next roll I hit the point. The point becomes the 8. I started this roll $10 with $20 pass/odds. Now I had $15/125. I took the place bet down off the 8 but I should of left it up because that’s was where I chose to put the double hit money. Next roll 8. Cost myself $70 n getting closer to the goal of getting them as high as possible.

    My friend rolled a 42 and the same thing I kept the hit on the 10 when the $100 buy was supposed to go up. 10 came again n this time I did buy it for $100 on top of the come bet with the bases loaded and some double parks. 10 came again n I caught $195 n the $110 off the come. By not making the move when the progression called for it I cost myself $195. Overall good day. Could of played it better but still a lucrative day.

    Posted by: Jumbotron Ron on March 11, 2015, 9:08 am

    I saw a guy tonight buy in for $300 n bought the 4 on a roll already in progress. The 4 came n he went to a $100, came again he went to $300. It came again and he took $370 n went to $500. It came again he took a 1000 plus he dropped his bet down to $50 taking another $448. The dude 7nd n he walked playing only 1 shooter. The guy shooting is a mush so I was nowhere near the roll even though he well exceeded the 5 count. When the mush is having a good day u have friendly dice…lol On a roll where I had every number covered n 4 double parks waiting to get hit I tried to give the mush a quarter to take a half n hour walk…lol

    Posted by: Finisher on March 15, 2015, 5:55 am

    Have been trying in practice . This time I got a good roll going but did not do it just right but did make 6x my bye in with a 37 roll .That was best ever did in practice as far as money goes .
    Now I just need to do that in real play .
    Good Rolling.

    Posted by: Jumbotron Ron on March 20, 2015, 1:52 am

    Do it!!

    Jumbotron Ron
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