What do they pay in your area ?
Good Rolling. 🙂 🙂

The "generous" Colorado casinos pay a whopping $299 for the fire bet and $300 for 10 passes on the sharpshooter. With house edges in the 23% range both bets suck. I never bet these.

OMC Years ago when the fire bet first came out or when I heard about it I asked a sealer about it .At the time it was a dealer who teaches new players how to play for the casino .He had not heard of it . So I went on the net and made him a copy of it . He looked at it and said that it was a bad bet with a great % for the casino .
That was with the pay of 25 for1 for4 and 250 for5 and1000 for 6 .
When does the sharp shooter bet start paying ?
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It starts to pay when you hit point #3

For shooters like all of us, it’s a great bet — I hit ’em for 6 points (pays 30 to 1 — I had $5) — I had the 7th point set-up and did not hit it

The good thing is that if your shot is on, and if you can set-up and hit the SAME point over and over, you keep winning and adding points until you hit the 10 total for $300 to 1 — the max bet is $25

Finisher,

4 –> 25 for 1
5 –> 250 for 1
6 –> 1000 for 1

I was happy $1250 for one hand. It was an extremely hot table. A shooter three shooters before also nailed it for 5. I didn’t bet on him. 🙁

I only bet the fire my myself if I feel "lucky". I know it a bad bet, but I do like to dream. 🙂

Was anybody else on it with you ?
I have seen were lots of fire bets are out there .I play it only when I get the feeling .
I have hit it one time for a 25.00 win .
Good Rolling. 🙂 🙂

Congratulations.

I remember skinny posting about the whole enchilada once saying that the house edge on it was less than the fire bet food for thought.

The whole enchilada consists of throwing the same hard way 4 times in a hand with out hitting it soft, hard 4,10 4096 to 1 is the pay off if you parlay it for each of the first three times and collect on the fourth,

hard 6,8 10,000 to 1 just food for thought.

I might be wrong though not sure if I remember it right help me skinny what is the house edge on throwing a hard way four times before a seven or throwing it soft?

Here is the Big Enchilada wager. Bet $1 on the hard 4 or 10. Each time you hit the bet, parlay all of the winnings and your original bet. If you hit the bet 4 times in a row you will walk away with a total of $4,096 in your pocket. That is a profit of $4,095 over your original $1 wager. You will have been paid 4,095 to 1 for a wager that has true odds of 6,560 to 1 for a random roller.

As Brothelman suggested you could also use it on the hard 6 or 8. That would have true odds of 14,640 to 1 for a random roller. It would pay $9,999 plus your original $1 for a total of $10,000 if you hit the bet 4 times in a row.

Click on the following link to read about The Big Enchilada. The post is from the Wisdom pages.

http://www.goldentouchcasino.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=114

But the house edge on The Big Enchilada (37.5% on the 4/10 and 31.7% on the 6/8) is worse than it is for the Fire Bet. The reason being that the Fire Bet pays out on 4 and 5 numbers as well as for 6 numbers, albeit smaller payouts. Most folks who are playing the Fire Bet are looking for the 6 number payout and don’t really care much about the HA against them. If you are going to gamble for a large payout, you might as well go with The Big Enchilada because the payout is so much larger for approximately the same odds as the Fire Bet when it comes to "only" hitting the big one.

"Finisher" wrote: Was anybody else on it with you ?
I have seen were lots of fire bets are out there .I play it only when I get the feeling .
I have hit it one time for a 25.00 win .
Good Rolling. 🙂 🙂

Yes,

Three other players bet the fire with me and one player was playing the don’t pass He stopped after I nailed my third point. I also bet $1 fire for the crew as did another player.

That roll cost the house $5500 minus the lay bets. Two players laid the five for $150 each to lay in some extra winnings.
The dealers loved the $500 in tips. 🙂

I never got up on the sixth point (the nine). I sevened out trying to re-make the eight.

Skinny would the house edge change if you put 2 bucks on the 4 and pulled 6 dollars on the first hit?

By pulling $6 down on the first hit you are leaving $10 up for the next wager intending to parlay your winnings for 3 more hits. This would pay $5,120 after the 4th hit from when you first wagered $2.

By playing it that way you would reduce the HA to 27.6%.

so is what you are saying is it would pay more than the fire played this way and have a smaller house edge or one about the same.

I mean it would pay 5,120 versus 2000 on the fire bet true.

That is a much bigger pay day something for thought.

Skinny one more question, what is the house edge on hitting the hard six and eight only three times?

I ask this because at 5 dollars parlayed on the first two hits it pays 5000 and down which is a thousand to one, the same as the fire 6 pays in some places.

The odds of hitting a hard 6 or 8 three times in a row are 1330 to 1. The HA on that wager would be 24.9%.

The HA of the fire bet that pays 999 to 1 on the fire 6 is 20.8%. But the odds of hitting the fire 6 are 6172 to 1. The reason the HA is lower is because you also get paid 24 to 1 on the fire 4 (odds of 113 to 1) and 249 to 1 on the fire 5 (odds of 609 to 1). When those get added in, it makes the HA lower.

But as I said before, if you are only concerned with the big payout, The Big Enchilada and some of the variations you have come up with are easier to hit than the fire 6.

Skinny, do you know what the whole enchilada with sour cream is?

Hitting the same hard way 5 times before it goes down:).

Just some to think about .
The Fire could be made in 12 rolls but not likely . With that you will be in a long roll if you are going to win it at 6 points . So while you are in this long roll why not do the Big Enchilada since you will roll some hard ways or should be rolling them .
So has any one tried both to some decree ?
Like did you throw hard ways when you rolled the fire ?
Enchilada with Fire and for Bman add some cream cheese . 😀 😀
I know there are some that love to bet the hard ways .
Good Rolling. 🙂 🙂

The only one of these crazy bets that I like and will play is the Fire Bet. I do not even think about it until I have made 5 points. At that time I will try to establish the 6th number.

I have hit all 6 numbers 4 X’s

Dominator

Dom So you never bet a hard way one way or other ?
Good Rolling.

Skinny I brought this back because I thought the HA was greater then what your chart showed on New bet post so am I missing this .
Good Rolling. 😀 😀

No, you are not missing anything. The HA of the fire bet that pays 999 to 1 on the fire 6 is 20.8%.

This is worse than every bet on that new bet except for the 3/11 which carries a house edge of 21.875%.

But the house edge on every bet on that new bet is over 18%. That still makes it a horrible wager, even though it may be slightly better than the house edge on the fire bet.

Long time ago, the Gold Strike in Tunica paid $1,000 if a shooter came out and made the six different point number. No you didn’t have to bet you were going to, it was automatic and only the shooter got anything. I hit it once and knew one fellow in Tunica who hit it twice.

Noah