I haven’t visited the site in quite a while, but I’ve got a question that is bugging me.
My question involves this: Whether it is the v3 or the v2, when you set the dice, it seems like the sets should behave identically on their results. For example, if you double pitch a V2, you’ll get a 5/2. If you double pitch a V3, you’ll get a 4/3. In other words, with a solid, repeatable on-axis throw, the 7 risk for the sets ought to be the same. You’re changing the position of the 6 & 1 on each set in a similar fashion but just making different number combos on the faces. My dilemma is this: I have a very good SRR with the V3 and it hits a lot of 5s in addition to above average 6 & 8s. On the other hand, the V2 stinks and carries an SRR below 6 and basically hits nothing well above expected norm. These numbers are on throw samples in the tens of thousands. Can any of you statistical or physics experts tell me why this is? And, for me, the V2 does not make more 4s and 10s. I have another set that outperforms both the V2 and V3 on 6 & 8 frequency.
My best guess so far is that the V3 works statistically very well for my unique throw mechanics while, for some reason, the V2 does not. But maybe there is a scientific explanation somewhere.
Thoughts appreciated. Off to Vegas Nov 10 and 11 BTW. Wish me luck!
Keep On Rollin’
Alamo
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Posted by: Finisher on October 30, 2014, 5:46 am
I think you need to give more info to get what you want .
Did you use the set with the front dice being 4/1 6/3 ,3/1, or6/4 .?????
I did a little experiment .
4 throws with 36 rolls in each just to give you an idea of how things can differ from your throws .I still have a hard time getting repeat numbers so may not look good .
2v with 3/1 front went like this . 5,6.4,5,10,7,8,7,10,11,6,10,7,65,7,4,12,11,8,9,11,10,5,3,10,8,6,5,6,7,9,9,6,8,11,and 10 . with 3 hard ways .
2v with f6/4 . 8,6,8,4,9,9,6,7,10,11,8,7,2,6,7,11,4,7,8,5,11,9,7,5,9,3,8,4,6,11,4,5,8,10,8, and9 .with 3 hard ways .
2v with 4/1 front . 11,5,7,2,10,5,6,7,6,5,12,5,7,6,11,6,5,9,8,9,8,5,6,5,10,2,5,11,4,6,5,3,9,8,5,and 12 . 2 hard ways .
2v 6/3 front . 12,7,6,7,4,10,11,7,4,8,5,7,9,5,8,8,9,7,10,6,8,6,5,11,6,4,3,10,9,10,5,5,2,9,3,and 3 . with 3 hard ways .
I don’t know if this helps you any . But it may bring out some help for a real answer . 🙂 🙂
Boy has it been a long time since I have used that set . 😀 😀
Posted by: Dr Crapology on October 30, 2014, 11:57 am
If your throw is on axis the set will not necessarily determine if a 7 will come up as much as your grip and any flaws in your throw might have on the results. Also always remember that we always, always must hit the back wall and the diamond shapes at the back wall will do their job by adding some minor random results to each and evey roll. We just want the old diamonds to have as little influence on the results as possible. That’s why we have a solf throw. We are not looking for the perfect results with every roll (wouldn’t that be nice) but to simply limit the appearance of the 7 to some extent in the long run. Always remember we want to win in the long run and that anything can happen in the short run. Isn’t that what the casino is doing?
With an adequate bankroll, practice, proper betting, good throwing techniques,patience and YES a little luck when the dice get away from us, we can defeat the casino. AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ALL ABOUT.
A great question and so glad you are back on the board. Hope you take Vegas by storm. Look forward to your report.
Doc
Posted by: AlamoTx on October 30, 2014, 12:14 pm
I began using the 3V when I noticed too much double pitch 7 stuff with the HW set. Using 5s on top for the HW, I noticed too many 4/3 and 5/2 7s. I went to the 3V but rotated the dice one click so that my 3V has the 5 to my left and the 1 to my right. I now have a very good SRR with the 3V. Doing the same thing with the 2V didn’t have the same results. And, I"m talking about thousands of rolls.
Oh well, maybe its the ‘Dice Gods’ messing with my head!
Keep On Rollin’
Alamo
Posted by: sevenout on October 30, 2014, 2:08 pm
Just spit balling here, but that could explain the varied results with the different sets.
Posted by: Finisher on November 11, 2014, 3:23 pm
I remember one session were I threw the dice 5 times and this guy had a system that worked for him with me . He would bet all across and when one hit he would take it down .I hit 6 numbers out of 4 of the rolls and 4 for one with the 7 out right after .I lost money on every roll and he was happy .There were a few crap numbers in there too.After the 3rd roll it started to get to me .But I still just bet the 6 and 8 till I would win some but that did not happen this session .
You just never know what is going to happen .
I have been trying the 3v with 4s on top in practice .Will try the 2v next .
Good Rolling. 🙂 🙂