BC I HAVE MEET ALL 3 AND THEY HAVE GOOD THINGS TO SAY . On the 32 roll you should have made a little even using the 5 count .I shoot with Louis and Clark when she still had her eye sight . They are a great couple .
Hope you get back to even if nothing else .
Good Rolling.

A great and fun read. Rose and Doc know all three of them. They all live in or near Vegas and we see them from time to time.

Don’t get discouraged. The throw will come. It is very early in your GTC/Advantage play journey. After the class was over we knew you would do good. Keep up the practice,self critique and remember what was taught. Rose and Doc have to make corrections to their individual throws all the time–we all do. Advantage play is a journey and not a destination.

Also remember it is not an honor to always be the one who throws. Watch players you don’t know and you will, from time to time, see "the throw" that we teach and you will make money on them but not always.

Look forward to seeing you in the future.

Rose and Doc

Thanks Doc. I promise to work hard (but fun) and make you and all the mentors/instructors proud. After watching Lois work magic on the table, I couldn’t be more inspired.

For the record, Both Lois and Clark told me I had a great looking shot. Just need to practice. Here’s to hoping they (and you) are right!

For now, I have 24 hours left in Vegas. Let’s see if I can slowly make this hole smaller! Off to the tables.

Dennis

Lois and Clark are a real pair of characters, great people. I love to watch Lois roll, she is picture perfect GTC. Glad you got a chance to meet them.

Did you get to roll with Bman? Knowledgable guy.

Keep up the practice and soon you will begin to see the results. Do you have a practice rig? Purchase or build one soon so you don’t lose what you picked up from the class.

Hey Breeze! I bought a practice rig at the Memphis course and it came right before I came to Vegas so I didn’t get it assembled. That’s first on my list when I get home early Tuesday morning (taking the redeye out of Vegas).

I did get to roll with Brothelman. He is indeed knowledgeable and offered good advice. I was losing so I didn’t tip. He suggested that it would be wise to tip when I have the dice. Good advice. In the past, I only tipped if I was winning but i can see the value of tipping earlier in the session.

I realize I am very early in my Advantage Player experience and I really don’t have an advantage as of yet but dang it’s frustrating to 7 out so quickly when the friends you are with, rolling in a very random, ploppy manner, are kicking the table’s rear end. It’s even more frustrating when I am betting very little on them (and their good rolls) and a lot more on me (and my not so good rolls). I have lost more money on this trip than I ever have in the past. I have a pretty good 401 G set aside but I lost a little over 15% of it this trip. It will take a while to build it back up.

I think the thing to do is to practice a lot before I go to the casino again.

By the way, not sure if it’s too early but I went ahead and bought the Smart Craps software so I can better track my SRR.

Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it.

I thought I showed you how out of control casinos can get when they do not like what we do.

Just think about it I just started to hit the same spot over and over the hard six and only the hard six starts to show and, never in my life have i seen what we saw next, the box woman grabs a rag goes to the end of the table and wipes down the felt and the pyramids where I have been landing the dice while they are passing me the dice yes she wiped down the table felt and the pyramids vigorously, I wish I could of found it funny at the time but it was not.

Do not kid yourself this casino may not sweat a drunk who can not remember how many markers he signed and tries not to pay them, but they are not against letting you know that they are in charge and will do what ever they want.

It was nice to meet you

Bman Just thinking that in the past you probably WOULD HAVE HIT HER WITH THE DICE . Just a thought .I could just picture the look on your face and how you must have felt.
It is their game and we all have to deal with it .Glad you made some before they got your GOAT .
This just proves that you are getting better and they DON’T like it .
If all goes well I hope to see you at open Fri. in Vegas .
Did you ask her if she was rubbing it for LUCK after your roll ended . You should have told her that she needed to rub a little harder next time because the luck did not last long enough .
That is crazy what they did .
Did any of the other players say any thing ?
Good Rolling. 🙂 🙂

I would have thanked her for cleaning the table for me. Then I would have asked her if doing windows and sweeping the floor was part of her job also?

This is a bit of a last day update on the 1st post-training course outing. Today I have rolled much more consistently. I haven’t quite figured out how to stay focused and count rolls at the same time but I had 2 rolls of at least 20, hitting 4’s, 6’s, 8’s, and 10’s pretty well. I am a long way from up on the trip but i am up for the day which is nice.

Of even more significance to me, Finisher PM’d me yesterday with some more pointers on tipping. He uses a method similar to what Dom discussed at the course with $1 on my pass line bet and a dollar on the line for the dealers. I added a dollar as odds bets every time one of my numbers hit (I was playing the even numbers buying the 4 & 10 for a quarter unless one was the point). Over the course of the morning, I tipped them upwards of $30-40 so everyone was happy. The bowman talked to me for awhile and was impressed that I was so thoughtful to take such good care of his dealers (thank you Bman and Finisher and Dom). He gave us a voucher that more than covered our breakfast (a really good one at that) and suggested that we had a place to stay when we come back in November. I am waiting on the casino hostess to get back to me.

Anyway, I am convinced that the what I have learned and am learning will pay nice dividends going forward. Thank you to Dom and all the instructors/mentors in Memphis and all who have been so generous of time and expertise here in the forum and the GTC’ers I met in Vegas.

Dennis

Way to go Dennis. Glad to hear you’re not heading home without a good session. You became a George and high roller with comps at the same time. Nice

My first trip to the tables will be in about 3.5 weeks. Any tables you enjoyed in vegas? Pm them to me and I’ll head that way on my trip. I Have practiced everyday thus far. Monday is grip practice for me. Still working to be consistent with grip over and over again. I think that affects my variance more than anything else.

Happy rolling

Chad