Internally, I’ve had a debate about whether to come bet or place bet while shooting. Empirically, place betting the 6 and 8 seems to almost always result in better wins for me. The most recent trip to Vegas, I carved up one of the casinos pretty good starting with a $12 6 & 8. At $30 each, I began racking $25 and placing $10 beginning with odds on the point (if not 6/8) and thereafter inside out until all the numbers were covered. You get the gist. By the time the roll was over, all the remaining box numbers were pressed up to a minimum of $25, and when I sevened out, the 6 was at $210 and the 8 was at $150.
My point is not ‘look how good I am’ but rather to air my doubt about the come betting systems. I know for sure, based on a number of outings, that come betting would not have made me the money I’ve made place betting.
So…with that said, my theory is this: Doesn’t placing the 6 & 8 make more sense than come betting because of the fact that even with a 6.2 SRR, you have a stronger advantage over those two numbers? I mean, doesn’t it make since to hand pick the easiest numbers to overcome, and isn’t that why a press and spread 6/8 strategy is a good one? At this point, I’m afraid to come bet for fear of leaving money on the table! It seems like when I start with a 6/8, I very commonly hit one of them at least once, even on a short roll. Granted, a quick 7 out burns you, but more often than not, it seems you can overcome those things with a longer roll later.
I’d be interested in exploring this some more. I really had intended to come bet on this last trip, but I chickened out and went back to my old ways…and I think I’m glad I did. What I really detest is getting 4 or 5 come bets with odds on the board and then getting a come out 7 after making a point. Yes, you could then place the numbers you just lost, but it also seems to take longer to get all the box numbers covered by come betting with odds. I know The Big Skinny made the rounds here, but I find that to be just too risky for me. With a $30 6 & 8 to start off, if you hit it twice, you’ve still reduced your risk on the layout considerably, even if you’ve spread to a couple of other numbers with each hit. It seems like too many times, I’ve worked to get 3 non 6 & 8 come bets on the board only to miss them while repeating the 6 & 8. I know nobody can predict what strategy will always work, but I’m getting pretty darn comfortable with the hit and spread 6/8 strategy.
Somebody talk me down here!
Alamo
Replies:
Posted by: RFink13 on March 29, 2014, 12:03 am
Rich in Mich
Posted by: Finisher on March 29, 2014, 5:30 am
I too hate to have to many come bets out there when I make the point .It just does not end well .
I have been trying a field bet when I set 2s hard way to spread .I take the win on it and place the 4 or 10 .I don’t know if I will try this in real play yet .
The big skinny has not worked so far in practice for me . Up a unite seems to work better . But I try lots of ways in practice .
Good Rolling. 🙂 🙂
Posted by: Scooter on April 5, 2014, 2:18 am
I myself like to initially place the 6&8 then play come bets. The place bets fund the come bets, then when the come bets hit I ask the crew to keep the come bet up (as a put bet) and press the odds. I believe the odds on the come bets are better than on place bets.
This works best on a 10x or 20x table, not the 3-4-5x that is common in most areas.
Scooter
Posted by: Mr Finesse on April 6, 2014, 3:40 pm
Posted by: Finisher on April 27, 2016, 5:31 am
Good Rolling. 🙂 🙂
Posted by: getagrip on April 28, 2016, 1:46 pm