You are making an assumption that the "unapproved dice: means that they were loaded. I would doubt this much! I did a search on Ohio
gaming commission’s website and couldn’t find what is approved or not approved with dice. My guess it night have something to do with weight or size or something, but not loaded. You would have to have slight of hand artists as dealers at all tables

Dominator

So this is why the dice were bounceing off the table so much.

i do agree it was an assumption i searched too can’t find anything else on it maybe since it was settled out of court. One would think that is public record but that’s why it was an ?

An unnamed source called the casino and found out the "unapproved" dice were Pai Gow dice.

Thank you unnamed source.

"Pointman" wrote: An unnamed source called the casino and found out the "unapproved" dice were Pai Gow dice.

Thank you unnamed source.

ok you can come to my house and play poker i will mark all the cards an then tell you hey that was the other deck i marked not every deck i own.
And i went and asked them they have the same line like there reading from a script but i will tell you my dice are sections is a lot better than it was before that came out in the plain dealer. but now i dont trust them anymore staying away from there.

There is a lot of talk about dice being crooked, unbalanced, biased or loaded lately.

It is my opinion that there is no need for the casinos to do this to win, they cheated a long time ago when they set up the game as game that favors the house heavily. There is no possible way to beat craps mathematically…Einstein tried to figure out a way but failed.

I find these assumptions and postings on Facebook to be without merit nor hard evidence. Why would a casino that makes $8.59 Billion in revenues and gross incomes of $3.1B (CZR corp 2012) RISK getting caught with shaved dice? Do you really think that the short term income that they derive from this will help somehow? Would any large corporation or even a mid sized company (almost all casino companies are either medium or large corporations) risk the chance of getting caught and shut down and loosing everything for such a small, short-sided proposal?? REALLY? Enough with this nonsense, lets put this to rest.

Casinos don’t need to cheat, they just change the rules. Sure 6 to 5 BJ should be cheating, but they make the rules, and the Attorney General says its the law, its not cheating. They changed the payout on the prop sections for the 2,3,11 & 12, nobody complained about that, even if they did, who cares, they did it anyway… LEGALLY!

Because they are greedy like the rest of the world i work for a big company and we got branch of the year 2 time in a row and guest what we still only got the same 3% raise they all are greedy and ps i wanna stay out but i love the game so i went back hit a 5 point fire with 1 repeat point. only had 4 left when about a month ago i would crap out before the 5 count. and if they had them in pai gow they were everywhere

here is the deal guys

Every piece of betting equipment has to be "approved" by the OHIO gaming commission. This casino change dice manufacturers and didn’t get the new dice to the commission before they put them on the table … so they were fined. That is what happened

it just amazes me that people all over the internet think that they are losing because they think that the casinos cheat.

like PitBoss said, why would they jeopardize the "Goose that laid the Golden Egg" with a chance of losing their license? And please don’t say they are greedy, they are greedy, they are in business … they offer 6 to 5 single deck balckjack. Yes they are greedy and want to make more money, but all they have to do it change the edge in a game … NOT CHEAT!

please get over this!

Dominator

Wow, don’t know how to reply to that one. But, I will tell you this much. I have picked up dice and one was 1/16 of inch larger at a table. 😮

"Eagle Eye" wrote: Wow, don’t know how to reply to that one. But, I will tell you this much. I have picked up dice and one was 1/16 of inch larger at a table. 😮

When talking about Casino Dice, Precision manufactured, where not only is the Casinos reputation and License on the line but the Equipment Manufactures as well, a size discrepancy no matter how small is unthinkable to them. I find it hard to believe that a Licensed Casino would ever use or allow to be used mismatched Die. And 1/16 of an inch, when talking about Dice that are compared on ten’s of thousandths of an inch is likewise unbelievable.

However, I’m sure you brought it to the attention of the other players at the table. How long did it take to quell the near riot that would have most surely erupted.

ten points for Stephen C