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why is dice control so hard!!!

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If i had a temper, my walls would have more dice holes in them than
carter has little liver pills. I have put a great deal of time into this
as well as more money than i will ever tell my wife about….

Always at the end of a good class or a good roll there is the notion that now
i finally have this.. until the next time your awful.

A honest look at this tells us people like Tiger Woods has been playing golf
every day for over 30 years….. he still needs a golf coach!!!!!! he still
has bad days. but he can hit a golf ball

We take a class or two, but we cant have the instructors at our side every
time we play…. we dont have the money to have a craps instructor work
with us every day….so what is realistic????

The only answer i can figure out is to know your toss, what did it look like
when you had the last great hand or the last great short hand with
repeaters…. where were you standing, were did the dice land… were
the dice really good or were you lucky… i have found some times i have a poor
outing and next day i have an idea why….. thats not good enough, i have to
make adjustments quicker.. if my throw looks bad… there is a reason.. grip , stance
some thing…. correct it or leave the table….

Dom had said if your dice fly left or right, exaggerate the corrrection a little, i did that
the other night on the long table and had a great roll. I have played many times
and did not make that adjustment and i should have….

We all can throw the dice, we have had the best instruction, to get more great
hands and fewer poor nights we have to understand what makes our throw great
and what does not..and not be afraid to make adjustments quicker

Like any other sport, it seems 80% is the mental aspect, and that we have to
do on our own.

gman


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Posted by: Guest on October 22, 2012, 8:43 pm

GMAN, it only took me 50 years-yes i said 50years to get good at dice control. so my friend ,you still have time. JAIME. FROM S.P.R. πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

Posted by: SevenTimesSeven on October 22, 2012, 9:01 pm

JaiM,

Your stats show no GTC classes or any other coaching.
And your throw is marvelous. How marvelous?
Tell us your story. I’m eager to hear.

7×7

Posted by: Guest on October 23, 2012, 1:07 am

7X7,you know what 7×7, i did it my way. JAIME. F.S.P.R. πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

Posted by: Skinny on October 23, 2012, 4:24 am

"JaiM" wrote: JAIME. F.S.P.R. πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

FederaciΓ³n de Surfing de Puerto Rico (FSPR) ???

Posted by: Guest on October 23, 2012, 12:49 pm

SKINNY, GOOD MORINING FROM SUNNY Pr. do you surf in the east coast of puerto rico or the west coast? wheir they have the nuke plant. skinny please tell the gman to stop making this game hard on himself, show him the skinny way. JAIME. F.S.P.R. ADIOS. πŸ™‚

Posted by: Skinny on October 23, 2012, 8:43 pm

JaiM, Good afternoon from the beautiful and majestic Grand Canyon. My wife and I decided to spend some time here before returning home to NJ. I strongly recommend a trip out here if you have not done so. It is truly spectacular.

No, I do not surf. I looked up FSPR and found it also is an acronym for the Puerto Rico Surfing Federation. I thought you would find that humorous.

Posted by: Guest on October 24, 2012, 3:12 pm

GOOD MORNING SKINNY, from sunny puerto rico. skinny tell me if you did any shooting before going back to NJ. and did you win enough to pay for your vacation. skinny my first language is spanish, so i did not get the acronym in your reply. get them before they get you. JAIME.from s.p.r. adios. πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

Posted by: brothelman on October 25, 2012, 4:10 am

Because we do what we want and not what we are taught,lmao!

Just a simple thought so many people strugle with the shot so they change their set, even though we are taught to improve our shot.

Did he say two and you here three?

Did he say do not do that but it is what you want to do?

Now last but not least the table is hard and dice control is difficult lmao.

Gman you have all the goods relax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is not poker you can not win everytime.

Posted by: Dr Crapology on October 26, 2012, 1:10 pm

Learn that you will have bad days. Even the best pros in the PGA have bad days. Recognize these days and stop playing. Take a break. Some of my best rolls have followed a bad session with a breat/nap and back to the tables for a long throw.

Remember as No Field Five always says "trust your throw." Here is an analogy–a MLB base ball player who bats 300 can make over $20,000,000 per year and he does not get a hit 70% of the time. Don’t be too hard on yourself. Our losses are generally in the $400 to $800 range buy but our wins are in the 4 figures. Final total—we win over time just like the casinos.

Doc

Posted by: Guest on October 27, 2012, 5:17 am

Another thing that helps me learn physical skills faster is to have many short practice sessions vs. same amount of time in a longer session. Example: have 4 15-min. dice throwing practices and not one 1-hr. session. Try it. I cannot guarantee it’ll be as good for you as it is for me, try it & see.

Posted by: Finisher on October 27, 2012, 6:38 am

About how many rolls do you get out of your 15min. sessions ? Do you record them and if you do do you use two different color dice so you see how they are reacting ? Do you bet in practice like you would in casino ? OPPS Maybe to much to fast so late now . Will wait for reply .
I just hope you are learning a lot from this site.
Dice control is not hard it is just hard to be good at it. Just think of ALL those that golf but are not good enough to make money at it. It is still FUN. oPPS I don’t play golf.
But I am sure you get what I mean.
I use a roll sheet that I record every roll on it right dye and left dye. Also total 7s thrown and come out 7s .Along with each number and total hard ways along with total field numbers and box numbers.
At the bottom I record the numbers in Roman form so can see it like a graph . Really easy way of doing it .
Good Rolling. πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

Posted by: Dominator on November 1, 2012, 12:19 pm

You know I look at this thing we do as 80 percent mental and 20 percent physical.

I believe that most people will learn this throw, but at the tables it is the mental thing that changes. What makes a 300 hitter go 0-4 … the pitcher he is facing, or his inability to adapt to what the pitcher is throwing? Does he get frustrated early in the count?

When I started I played with a great friend and after a session as we were waiting for our car, I would ask what was different today? Why today did we win money or why did we lose? I believe that it takes getting to that zone we all have felt. Where the baseball looks as big as a basketball or in our case, where the dice just feel perfect in our fingers.

When some says they have mastered the throw, they have not. Mastery can never really be achieved. The more we play, the more we see that there is still so much to learn from the mental side and the physical side

Dominator

Posted by: getagrip on November 1, 2012, 11:47 pm

"Dominator" wrote:
When I started I played with a great friend and after a session as we were waiting for our car, I would ask what was different today? Why today did we win money or why did we lose?
Dominator

I think this is a great learning tip Dominator. I haven’t really thought about or done that in quite that way. From now on I plan on asking myself and the others I play with that same question when we leave the table.

Thanks! 😎