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Practice as you would play in the casino

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Alligator Rose and I have been giving this some thought. All serious dice controllers practice. But it has been our observation that many do not practice the way they will play in the casino.

In practice most of the good dice controllers have a good warm up session by working on certainly parts of their throws. Alligator Rose and I like to roll into a mirror at the end of the table, throw into a dish, use tooth picks between our fingers, throw over a small stand, etc or whatever you do to work on your your throw. You get the picture. I know it is hard to do this in the hotel but throwing on the bed can be a pretty good warm up.

Then it is time to play like we were in the casino using chips and if we seven out, start over. It is important that when playing with chips that you do everything exactly as you would in the casino. If you count your throws using $1 chips, place a $1 chips in the exact spot you would use in the casino. As the roll continues know exactly how you will change to red and then to green in your counting. If you use The Big Skinny (TBS) know how you will count your pay days and where the chips will be in the rack so that you know when you will have the number of wins you want before you begin to press. As you start to press, assuming you use a pull and press system, have a plan (with chips) of how you will keep track of a win that will press and a win that will go into the rack. You get the idea. No thinking just doing at the table what you do at home in practice. Let it become automatic with you. You have the 401G, you are not sweating the money, so all you need to do is roll. Make it so automatic that, as Frank says over and over in the class, you don’t have to think. It becomes what you do.

I promise that this will be of great benefit in your dice control career.

Good Rolling. The Beautiful Alligator Rose and I look forward to seeing everyong in the casino soon.

Doc and Rose


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Posted by: Guest on October 2, 2012, 12:53 pm

This was an excellent post Dr. You really put out a thoughtful way of going about sharpening your skill. Thanks for the post. I think it is important to give serious thought to how to make your practice as much like the casino as possible.

Posted by: getagrip on October 2, 2012, 5:18 pm

Great post Doc and things we all need to learn and remember to play an Advantage game of Craps! 😎 🙂

IMHO it is a good idea to take a break after a 7 out even in home practice. Unless you have a table all to yourself in the casino you will have some time period before you get the dice back. I usually take about a 10 or 15 minute break in between 7’s in my casino sessions. It may be longer in a real casino situation but even a shorter break makes you come back to the table and refocus your shot and betting just like in the casino.

Doc, I imagine you and Rose already do this automatically since you probably take turns shooting the dice. I just thought this might be an important point for us people practicing by ourselves to make it more like a real casino session would be.

Thanks for letting me add my 2 cents to your outstanding post! 😀

Posted by: Dr Crapology on October 2, 2012, 7:17 pm

Getagrip,

You are right. The break is good. We do this to some degree but can probably improve on the break idea when we practice. Thanks for posting.

Doc

Posted by: ACPA on October 2, 2012, 9:01 pm

Doc,

Looks like the only think you misses is how to get some distractions like occur in the casino.

Noah

Posted by: Guest on October 2, 2012, 10:06 pm

You could hire some cocktail waitresses but I think Alligator Rose might bite you!

Posted by: Finisher on October 2, 2012, 10:48 pm

I think that I pass the dice to myself faster then in the real casino unless I am the only one at the table . Once I start rolling it gets crowded and the passing of dice slowwsss down.
That is with me paying bets and all the rest. Of course since I am stick I know how dice are coming back so is easy to set but everybody should be looking at them when they are in the middle of table.
I have never seen how many rolls I do per hour in practice. I will have to time myself just to see if I am doing it OK or not.
When you think about the record. It is like 1min. 20 sec. for each roll. But I am sure that the first 30 or 40 rolls were faster then the last 20 or 30 rolls due to bets.
What is a good time for practice when you do it all ?
Also in practice I try to make the bets easier on me to pay off were in the casino I rely on the dealers doing their job. Also in the casino I tend to start pressing a little later. One because it is real money and two that I still get a little nerviness if it is first roll even after 4o years.

This is one for Clll and his great charts.
Like Great crew
Good crew.
Slow crew.
One person at table.
Four persons at table
Full table.
Good Rolling. 😀 😀

Posted by: Guest on October 3, 2012, 10:02 am

If you use chips as you practice would that distract you? I am thinking that paying them off as opposed to betting them would be something you don’t actually do at the table.

Posted by: Guest on October 3, 2012, 3:57 pm

Interesting point you made. Since we don’t pay ourselves in the casino doing so in practice adds something different to the mix. I wonder if that is good or bad?

Posted by: Goldfinger on October 3, 2012, 6:12 pm

If you are playing in a casino and you just rolled a 6 with a 42 dollar place bet on the 6. Do you just pick up the chips he pays you or do you do the mental math to make sure you are paid correctly. Same thing at practice. Do the math and pick up the correct chips. Soon you will learn the correct payouts.

GOLDFINGER

Posted by: SectionEight on October 4, 2012, 5:38 am

Good advice Doc. Wrote an article on this one last year in case folks want more on the subject:

http://www.casinocitytimes.com/article/practice-as-you-play-play-as-you-practice-60230

See everyone in a couple of weeks!

Take care,
SectionEight

Posted by: Guest on October 5, 2012, 2:17 am

We also play as we roll. We have a 14foot table Kathy rolls from stick left and plays on her end with her bets i roll from stick rt and play my bets on my end. We kind of have 2 games going all the time .We each have a dice stick , we also have some odd colored chips back in the dealer area and with each roll we drag a chip up in the dc area to mark what we are rolling and which numbers we are hitting the most we even mark the 2,3,11 & 12 on past the numbered area.When we make a point we use a pink chip to show a point was made . When we seven out we can count how many rolls we have had and what numbers we hit and how many points we made.

The time it takes to pay and mark the number we rolled makes it more real time like it would in a casino.

Cobe and Kathy.