I have played this game whenever it is availber to me and i do use the set you recomend,

The use of Buying the extreme outside numbers( 2,3,11 and 12) may attracts players to play Crapless Craps. The game has a greater over all house edge than craps. The use of Buy Bets enables players to increase their odds(3 to 1 on the 3 and 11 plus 6 to 1 on the 2 and 12)and presents an opportunities to increase their wins and 401G.

Minimize the Passline Bet and the Come Bet while playing Crapless Craps. Smile at the Don’t bettors who avoid the table. 😉

The game is patented and that may be why some casinos avoid the game.

Why does the house edge go down with odds in this game but not in the regualar game i am confussed?

"brothelman" wrote: Why does the house edge go down with odds in this game but not in the regualar game i am confussed?

The house edge does go down with odds in the regular game.

HA with odds

0X = 1.41%

1X = 0.848%

2X = 0.606%

3-4-5X = 0.374%

5X = 0.326%

Does the house let you take odds on the craps numbers? If so, how much odds do they customarily allow, and what does the posting of odds do to those numbers re the house edge?

Could you play your regular game and just ignore the 2, 3, 11 and 12 and, if you roll them, just leave them out there, but try to establish your two or three box numbers like you usually do? Normally, if you had been trying to establish and hit box numbers and had rolled any crap number except the 11 in the process, you normally would have lost the money anyway and would have kept trying instead to establish your box numbers. In other words, you don’t lose your passline or come bet on those numbers, so why don’t you just leave ’em out there while you roll as usual, trying to establish 4,5,6,8,9,10? If you hit one of the craps numbers that was left out there, so much the better.

Educate me.

Alamo

Does the house let you take odds on the craps numbers?

Yes, you can take Odds on the Crap number which have become a point. The 2 and 12 pay 6 to 1, the 3 and 11 pay 3 to 1.

If you roll a craps number on the Comeout roll it is like getting a free Buy Bet!

Alamo,

you could do what you suggest, but thej house advantage on your come beats are three times what they normally are on a regular table.

I don’t recommend what you suggested for that reason.

Noah

Could you play your regular game and just ignore the 2, 3, 11 and 12 and, if you roll them, just leave them out there, but try to establish your two or three box numbers like you usually do? Normally, if you had been trying to establish and hit box numbers and had rolled any crap number except the 11 in the process, you normally would have lost the money anyway and would have kept trying instead to establish your box numbers. In other words, you don’t lose your passline or come bet on those numbers, so why don’t you just leave ’em out there while you roll as usual, trying to establish 4,5,6,8,9,10? If you hit one of the craps numbers that was left out there, so much the better

Yes, you can play Crapless Craps just like regular craps, but you most remember that the Passline Bet and the Come Bet(on a Random Roll, by the Math) are at 5.38% House Advantage jnstead of the 1.41% for the regular game.

It is difficult for players and even dealers to come to grips with the fact that not having an immediate win on the 11 cannot be offset by not losing your line bet on the Craps numbers.

Place payout on the 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10 are the same as in the regular game. Payouts differ at different casinos on the 2 and 12, the 3 and 11. I would appreciate information as to the Place Bet payouts on these numbers from your casinos.

The other Place bets can be handled like the regular game with 6 and 8 being the best to bet.

So the question would be, Can I still have the right to shoot the dice without a passline bet? Lets just say a 6/8 bet working on the comeout instead of a passline.

I have never seen a casino that will allow you to shoot the dice without a line bet(be it Passline or Don’t Pass). A line bet is a requirement to shoot the dice.

The table minimum tells you how little you can bet on the line.

The Doe’y Don’t with a pass and don’t pass will work , but is shown to have no mathematical advantage.

Just bet minimum on the Passline. I would personally avoid the Come on a Crapless table.

If you are an ardent Come Bet player save that for a regular table.

Crapless is a different game, so bet differently to gain an advantage.

You can, as a non-shooter play the game.

You would then be looking for a shooter that hit the numbers that you were betting, be it Place Bets, Come Bets, or Buy Bets.

It is very interesting to watch how various players respond to this game.

[list=circle]I have seen players:

[*]Play just as they do at the regular table.[/*]
[*]Play the inside numbers.[/*]
[*]Play outside numbers.[/*]
[*]Play across(all ten numbers).[/*]
[*]Come Bet as normal.[/*]
[*]Buy the extreme outside numbers for $20 to $39 each[/*]
[*]Buy the extreme outside numbers for hundreds of dollars..[/*]
[*]Buy the extreme outside numbers and play the Field at the same time.[/*]
[*]The list goes on…[/*][/list]

CIII,

In Tunica, I saw a player place $400 across on every number. No passline or any other bets. He was up and down and his winnings and losses would oscillate steeply and it was fun to watch. Dealers were very deferential to him, even bowing to him when they took chips from him to place his bets.

The startled looks on a new players face, when they are not paid when they toss an 11 on the Comeout roll, is priceless.

It is equally as shocking for the new player to see his Come Bet 11 moved up to a number on a comeout roll.

New players automatically reach for a chip to make a new bet when they toss a 2, 3, 11, or 12 on the comeout roll.

Dealer that deal both tables also get confused and call a comeout 3 a "Craps three".

Dealers, also, are apt to put your 6 and 8 Place bets on the wrong numbers as they are used to a certain position for the box number from dealing on the regular tables.

A lot of ribbing goes on!!!

Agame said: In Tunica, I saw a player place $400 across on every number.

He sounds like a player we call $30,000 barney because he stacks Black and Purple chips(Barneys) on every number ten deep.

Yes, he is given preferential treatment.

Why would you want to play in a game and avoid the best part of it?

It has been pointed out if you have the shot and abilty to controll the dice, using the right set this game is very good and the house edge is low.

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