I am a slim but buxom woman and I have had the same types of remarks. Not all the time but enough that I understand how you feel. For some reason some men think they have the right to say degrading things to women. I wonder how they treat their wives or girlfriends? Or how they would feel if their wives or girlfriends were subjected to the insults these men throw at other women?

I am guessing that you don’t have another casino close enough to play at. My recommendation instead of giving up craps is that you save up and take trips to Vegas or Atlantic City. Although you can find those types of men there as well, you will find far fewer because there are far more craps tables to play at.

Listen to music on your ipod while playing. If you have in the head phones you will not hear any comments made by idiots.

Levona, if you have a passion for the game, and you obviously do, then you should not let immature players stop you. The best defense is a good offense. Be a better player than the morons. Not only at throwing the dice, but in betting strategies as well. Nothing garners respect like success and excellent performance. You have the ability to excel at both.

If a player makes a less than encouraging remark, ask him, in a voice loud enough for the table and crew to hear, if he meant that remark to be as insulting as it sounded. He will, more than likely, back off and remain silent. If, however, he says yes, he did mean for it to be insulting, you have two choices. You can return the favor by saying you haven’t commented on his . . . beer belly, scruffy beard, short stature (that’ll really get him!), poor performance at the table, etc., or you can color up, telling the box person that you will not play with morons, and leave the table.

Let us know how it goes. I’m sure all GTC members are rooting for you.

Levona, I agree with diceman.

It is unfortunate that some males think demeaning remarks elevate them in the eyes of other men.

Several years ago I was in Reno when a young woman {25 or so} was experiencing the same type of comments. She took a small bar of soap out of her pocket, loudly asked the boxman if she could give it to the loudmouth so he could clean his mouth. Everyone laughed, the guy shut up, colored up and left.

I’m not saying this is your style but it certainly got the point across.

One word applies to these guys – ANIMALS. I like that soap idea.

Levona,

It would be a shame to give up anything you enjoy just because the men around you are pigs.
It would seem to me this casino has some legal obligation to provide an enviornment that is free of sexaul harassment to all who play there. Maybe there are some attorneys on this board who can help.

You could just call the police and say these men are harrassing you and you feel unsafe. It is terrible that women have to put up with this crap.

Maybe just ignore them and focus on the game, unless they get right into your face. I am surprised that the casino bosses just let this go. I don’t care how high a roller any of these guys are, manners are manners. Didn’t their mothers teach them how to behave around a woman?

"AdamG" wrote: Maybe just ignore them and focus on the game, unless they get right into your face. I am surprised that the casino bosses just let this go. I don’t care how high a roller any of these guys are, manners are manners. Didn’t their mothers teach them how to behave around a woman?

AdamG,

That is the point. If a formal complaint is made to the casino and nothing is done they have not met their
obligation controll impropper behavior on their property.

All that aside we should not tolerate that type of behavior at the tables.
Not only should the lady involved make her displeasure known in a loud a clear voice, the rest of us should
back that up.
If nothing is done and the lady leaves the table because of it, we should as well making it known why.
This is no time to be under the Radar.

We at GTC are different in many ways from the average craps player.
We welcome the ladies into our family (many are quite good at this DC thing).
I for one would not stand by and let this happen.
Change will only happen with action.

I FOR ONE ALWAYS MENTION TO A NEW LADY AT THE TABLE THAT THE RECORD IS HELD BY A LADY THAT HAD ONLY THROWN TWICE IN HER LIFE.
Sorry ABOUT THE CAPS AM LAZY today.
Good Rolling. 😀

I really like the soap idea!

I would recommend that you save up enough money to take a class. When you become an advantage player, and can make those morons money that they can’t make for themselves, then they will shut up.

I have never experienced such personal insults at a table, but that may be because Sandtrap is always with me.

In fact, the opposite happens at our regular casino. Men will leave the table they are at to join us on our table when we are shooting. TWhen we color up they will also ask, "When are you coming back?" I have also been tipped several times for making them a nice profit.

I hope you will seriously consider taking a class. It will change your life forever, as it has mine.

Goddess

These creeps should be banned from the table, but we both know this will not happen. Alligator Rose got irritated by comments that a GTC srtudent (he took the clasds but must have slept through most of the class as he did very little of the GTC principles if any) made not to the lady players but to the lady dealers. Very sexual comments–he was an old f**t. She called him on it and in no unceratin terms told him it wasn’t funny. I would have said something for sure but was at stick left one and she is left handed and was at stick right one and I did not hear the comments.

She is as courteous as a lady can get, but she can also respond in spades. She shut him up for a short time but we left and have made it a point to not let him know when we will be at the tables.

These creeps are everywhere–this display of stupidity is not limited to the craps table or to casinos. I say call the creep on it–I like th soap idea. Usually if you make fun of him he will shut up. Use humor where possible. You might say something like "I guess you make these stupid comments since your wife probably won’t put up with you in the bed room!!" Thas should catch his attention. And when you say something like this make sure all around you hear it.

If these things don’t work, simply go somewhere else by saving up for a trip as was mentioned earlier.

Good luck. Rose and I would love to meet you at the casino. You sound like our kind of people.

Doc.

The badgering of women will happen. Sad but true. Some men lack class.

I am hoping as more and more women start to play craps we will see some form of manners develop. Most of the time most of the people who play are nice individuals but you can always get jerks. I am so sad to read what Dr. Crapology said about a GTC grad behaving like a ploppy at the tables. That is an embarrassment since we do teach proper manners.

Levona, don’t give up on craps. It is a great game. You’ll just have to figure a way to work around those idiots.

You’ve complained to the Crew, Pit Critter, Shift Manager and the GM with no action being taken. Have you complained to your Gaming commission. Better yet, have you contacted your local TV stations Liberal Female Investigative Reporter. The Casino Management would be singing a different tune real quick if she showed up doing a report on how they weren’t responsive to sexually abusive treatment of their female patrons. Most of their revenue comes from slots and most of those are Female. Hint, Hint.

Great idea Stephen C. I never thought of that.

Good points by all. I have not had or seen any issues when playing. Apparently these men have not been brought up with a boot up their wazzooo.

Its yes Mam, No Mam at the tables. I think they appreciate that. Especially the dealers.

FF

I saw a DP player that did not like lady’s at the table ask one to leave and put a black chip down her ** to leave the table she did and also went over to security and they watched him for 20min. but did nothing.
Good Rolling. 😀

If you are in lower Illinois, it would be an honor to roll the cubes with you. There are many females at the local casino, and they range to classy looking to just got off work from the cement factory. But they love the game and play it with gusto!

Frank, sad to say I see students and alum who violate the GTC 20 principles from time to time in the casinos not only with ettiquette violations but with making crazy bets like a drunken sailor. I am not the only one who sees this. It may not be many but one is too many in my book.

Doc

One is too many.

Quitting craps is not the answer….I would talk with someone at the casino to get protection.

Randman