Thanks for putting your results out there. I have a few questions for you. You stated that in your first roll you "hit a few points, maybe a 10 roll hand". Did you mean that you rolled a few box numbers or did you literally hit several points? If you hit several points in a 10 roll hand, that is extremely good news. If you meant that you were rolling box numbers, in a 10 roll hand, using pass line bet and come bets (maybe two to start) and if any of those numbers were repeaters, again you should have done pretty well. If you don’t mind me asking, what is your SRR on those close to 5000 rolls you have recorded?

You also stated that you placed the 6 & 8 for $12 each and immediately rolled a 7-out. If you recall from the course, Dom and GTC do not recommend place betting. A come bet in the scenario you described would have won you $10 for that bet instead of losing $24 on the 2 place bets.

As is said often in the course, this is a journey and it will take a while and a whole heck of a lot of practice. Keep practicing and when your SRR with at least 5000 documented rolls exceeds 6.23, then you have a small edge. Trust it and bet within your edge.

Keep up the great work.

It is great that you did what the instructors said Most do not . Were the 7s good 7s like they told you in class or were they 6/1 s ? Some times when you think or try to hard things happen not for the good . Just saying things will get better this is a JOURNEY .
Good Rolling. 😀 🙂

Burksizm, welcome to the journey. When you question something go back to your notes from your GTC seminar. You would be surprised how many answers you have in your notebook. Also, with the stickman – try the $2 tok that Dom talks about in class. $1 on the passline and $1 on top of your passline bet. Hit the number and the house pays you $2 to replace the $2 you pass to the dealers. Dealers love it. You would be surprised how many stickmen move back just a little to give you a better view. I also have the problem of my long arm pendulum throw crossing the prop bet area. With a dealer bet, they often are not as picky when there is a bet for them. Yes, you are trying to influence the stickman. Welcome.

Thanks for sharing!

You don’t want a NEW position, all you need to do is move down a little. Casinos are into this not reaching over thing.

Those 7’s coming in bunches …… remember you SRR is a long term thing meaning that if you have a SRR of 7 and you toss a 21, theoretically you will throw 3 7’s in a row. And the opposite is true as well.

Keep the journey going and remember your betting as Jawbones said. Remember the way to win more money is to learn to loss less money and that is all in the betting

Dom

"JawBones" wrote: Thanks for putting your results out there. I have a few questions for you. You stated that in your first roll you "hit a few points, maybe a 10 roll hand". Did you mean that you rolled a few box numbers or did you literally hit several points? If you hit several points in a 10 roll hand, that is extremely good news. If you meant that you were rolling box numbers, in a 10 roll hand, using pass line bet and come bets (maybe two to start) and if any of those numbers were repeaters, again you should have done pretty well. If you don’t mind me asking, what is your SRR on those close to 5000 rolls you have recorded?

You also stated that you placed the 6 & 8 for $12 each and immediately rolled a 7-out. If you recall from the course, Dom and GTC do not recommend place betting. A come bet in the scenario you described would have won you $10 for that bet instead of losing $24 on the 2 place bets.

As is said often in the course, this is a journey and it will take a while and a whole heck of a lot of practice. Keep practicing and when your SRR with at least 5000 documented rolls exceeds 6.23, then you have a small edge. Trust it and bet within your edge.

Keep up the great work.

I hit a few points, meaning I made my point on a 6, 9 and a 6. I didn’t bet any hardways on my first hand, and I rolled a hard 4 and a hard 10. My SRR is 11 on the documented rolls. I have 3800 documented rolls so far. I have my page set up with 8 columns with 33 rows. On average I’ll roll (3) 7’s. My bad columns I’ll roll (5) 7’s and on my better rolls I’ll roll 0-1.

My 2nd hand I placed a Come bet and the point was a 9, I made it with odds. But I placed a 6 & 8. I hit them a couple times before I 7-out. But then on my 3rd and 4th hands, I threw some 7’s on the come out rolls but I didn’t make my point, I 7-out.

You’re right my biggest mistake was placing the 6 & 8 twice with $12 and then 7-out! Thanks for the advice I’ll remember!

"Finisher" wrote: It is great that you did what the instructors said Most do not . Were the 7s good 7s like they told you in class or were they 6/1 s ? Some times when you think or try to hard things happen not for the good . Just saying things will get better this is a JOURNEY .
Good Rolling. 😀 🙂

I tried to stay within what Dom and Dr. Crapology told me. The 7s were 3/4s and 5/2s. I knew when the dice left my hand on 1 of them that it was going to be a 7 because of how they left my hand, 1 flew out and then the other one left so they weren’t rotating together and anytime I do that in practice most of the time it results in a 7. That’s why I was thinking "Get lucky!" But I didn’t get lucky! This was a good learning experience, I hadn’t played since August, I have been trying to learn how to set the dice within a timely manner and count the number of rolls. I’m going to go back in a few days and play, I’m looking forward to it! Thanks for the positive message!

"Set44" wrote: Burksizm, welcome to the journey. When you question something go back to your notes from your GTC seminar. You would be surprised how many answers you have in your notebook. Also, with the stickman – try the $2 tok that Dom talks about in class. $1 on the passline and $1 on top of your passline bet. Hit the number and the house pays you $2 to replace the $2 you pass to the dealers. Dealers love it. You would be surprised how many stickmen move back just a little to give you a better view. I also have the problem of my long arm pendulum throw crossing the prop bet area. With a dealer bet, they often are not as picky when there is a bet for them. Yes, you are trying to influence the stickman. Welcome.

The 1st stick person was a lady, she didn’t say anything, but as soon as the new guy came over and I toss, he immediately tells me "You’re going to have to watch your arm, you’re in my space. I was going to move, but he did. But I know that some of these guys will be a bit stricter, especially if I’m winning. But I will try to place the bet for them and see if that works.

"Dominator" wrote: Thanks for sharing!

You don’t want a NEW position, all you need to do is move down a little. Casinos are into this not reaching over thing.

Those 7’s coming in bunches …… remember you SRR is a long term thing meaning that if you have a SRR of 7 and you toss a 21, theoretically you will throw 3 7’s in a row. And the opposite is true as well.

Keep the journey going and remember your betting as Jawbones said. Remember the way to win more money is to learn to loss less money and that is all in the betting

Dom

I’m going to try to move a bit more to the right and get on my tip toes and reach out over the table a bit more. Hopefully that clears up any issue I have with the stick person. The 7s are just like when I practice, I can throw 30 numbers without a 7 but when I do, a few more are going to come. In this brief session, I learned so many things about my thinking, posture and position that are going to come in handy when I’m practicing, so that when I go to the casinos my habits will take over. I still have about 1200 more tosses to document before I know what my SRR is. I’m excited to get those 1200 down, but I am going to play a bit, just so I can slowly put what I’m doing in practice into what I’m doing while playing. Thanks for all the help Dom!

I had my first trip last night, since the primer in Tunica last weekend. Friday nights are usually chaotic typically, and there was a gift giveaway. However, they had all the tables opened and there was only one player at the table I selected. After he sevened out he left and I bought in. I had a few throws and sevened out. Got the dice right back and threw for several minutes. I need a yo for the SAT to be complete. The roll ended. I had the dice twice more. All in all I doubled my buy in and the dealer bets I made on the passline provided them with about 25% as much as I won. Colored up and left. All in about 70 mins worth of work. I noticed that I was starting with the dice level to the table but on delivery I turned my hand some. Will have to work on that. Many thanks to all the instructors from the Tunica class. Oh, I only made passline/come bets with odds, and an occasional two way hard way if it was the point.

Tug, good to have you in the class. Rose and Doc really enjoyed watching your improvement from Sat to Sun. Glad you had a successful run at the table. Look forward to seeing you in the future.

Rose and Doc

Nice shooting Tug and great betting!

Dom

Burkzizm,
I also shoot SR1 and get that soft "HEAT" often. When that happens I say, "I understand. I think if I move a half step to my right that should avoid me getting in the stickman’s space". That works absolutely all the time and doesn’t cause any additional ruffled feathers.

Keeping good will at the table is always a good thing.

Tug, practicing in front of a mirror will help immensely. I always practice until my hand looks correct, then I close my eyes and toss again without letting my hand drop so I can see the result in the mirror. This is part of muscle memory.

Burkzizm (and everyone), I cannot stress enough the importance of tipping. Sandtrap and I tip whenever we are betting, even on other shooters. There have been numerous times when dealers have backed up, or cleared our throwing alley by moving chips. On occasion, I have forgotten to put down pl odds, or swept them up on a payout, and the stick person has told me to put them down even after the dice are in the air. Tipping is also practiced in class, or you can ask about it during an open house.

Goddess