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Dom and Crew,
I have to thank you all again, and for all the GTers not using this system of pushing the odds in AC it’s time to get on board! Hit em heavy again last nite pass/come with the $15, with 75/100/125 odds it’s incredible. You don’t even need the 20+ rolls to be successful, of course a good roll always makes me happy. Been using for over a year now and has been a cash cow. See you all in AC next week…
Joe


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Posted by: Dominator on April 8, 2018, 11:41 am

You are exactly right. Come betting with odds are the way to go!

Good shooting and you are welcome!

Dom

Posted by: Cmcierra on April 9, 2018, 7:19 pm

Hello GTC, I was wondering if this would work with all other casinos or just in AC?

Cmcierra

Posted by: Skinny on April 10, 2018, 1:11 am

It should work at any casino at any straight odds until you get to 10X odds.

So at 2X odds you can normally take $6/8/10 in odds on a $3 line bet. $30/40/50 on a $15 line bet.

Some cruise ships may not allow it. But most casinos should allow it.

Posted by: Skinny on April 10, 2018, 1:21 am

If you are at a $5 table and put an extra $1 on top for the dealer, they should let you take $30/40/50 in odds on your line bet. This is a good way to push the house with a dealer bet. Put $1 alongside your $6 line bet. When it hits the dealers will take $2 from the side bet and pay you $66 for your line bet and odds. Leave up the $6 line bet and put another $1 alongside it from the $66 payout. You put $65 in your rails.

This way you can keep replacing your dealer bet without taking any money from your rails.

Posted by: Cmcierra on April 10, 2018, 2:32 pm

Thank you for clearing that up.

Cmcierra

Posted by: Finisher on April 10, 2018, 2:38 pm

Which is correct . I’m a little confused now . I would think it could be 30,24, and 18 ,instead of 25 20 and 15 for that line bet of 5 with a one on top for dealer .
Good Rolling. ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ™‚

Posted by: Skinny on April 10, 2018, 5:08 pm

It would be $18/24/30 on a $6 line bet at a 3X table.

At a 5X table you can take $30/40/50 in odds on a $6 line bet.

Posted by: SevenTimesSeven on April 11, 2018, 3:05 pm

I’m missing something here, being so ignorant:
On any 5x odds table, for the passline and come bets:

A $6 bet on the 4 or 10, $6 times 5 = $30,
indicating $30 odds allowed for a payout of $60 on the odds,
as Skinny says.

A $6 bet on the 5 or 9, $6 time 5 = $30, an even number,
indicating $30 odds for a payout of $45 on the odds,
but Skinny says $40 odds is allowed for a payout of $60 on the odds.

A bet of $6 on the 6 or 8, $6 time 5 = $30,
indicating $30 odds for a payout of $36 on the odds,
but Skinny says $50 odds is allowed for a payout of $60 on the odds.

What am I misunderstanding?

Posted by: Cmcierra on April 11, 2018, 6:44 pm

I believe Skinny is referring to pushing the house on maximizing the odds.

Cmcierra

Posted by: Skinny on April 12, 2018, 6:04 am

I explained about how the three-unit bet came about and what it is in a post I wrote called "Pushing the House". Unfortunately, in that post I did not think about the $2 unit wherein $6 becomes a three-unit bet. But if you read that post and change the third paragraph to read, "They followed the same principle on a three-unit bet for units of 2,5,10,25,50,100,250, etc. In these cases your three-unit line bet would be 6,15,30,75,150,300,750, etc." you should be fine.

Here is the link to that post in the Wisdom pages:

http://www.goldentouchcasino.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=97&p=112&hilit

Posted by: SevenTimesSeven on April 12, 2018, 3:28 pm

So should all casinos honor "pushing the house on maximizing the odds"?
Could a player just walk up to a table and do this "pushing" without
knowing whether that casino allows it?

Posted by: Skinny on April 12, 2018, 6:16 pm

The only places I played that did not honor it were on a cruise ship and at casinos that had 10X odds of more.

Of course it does not work on a 3-4-5X odds table only on those with straight odds of 1X, 2X, 5X, etc.

To be on the safe side you can always ask the box before placing your bets how much odds you can take for a specific wager. Say it is a 5X odds table and you want to make a $6 line bet. If the box says up to $30 on all numbers, I would say, "But isn’t $6 a three-unit wager so can’t I take $30/40/50 in odds on the 4&10/5&9/6&8 respectively?"

Posted by: SevenTimesSeven on April 12, 2018, 7:44 pm

Skinny,
Thanks for the clarification.
Hope they don’t tell me "this is a $5 unit not a $3 unit table".

Posted by: Wirenut on April 12, 2018, 9:03 pm

Skinny, is it better to push the house or place the numbers via The Big Skinny?

I normally play $10/5X odds. After that eighth money shot, I would go to $15 and push the odds.

I want to recall I have seen you mention that placing the numbers along with the respective Come bet allows you to have less money on the table, but pushing the house at $15 allows the HE to be watered down to almost nothing.

Posted by: Skinny on April 13, 2018, 12:05 am

Itโ€™s better to go to $15 and push the house.

Posted by: HardNine on April 15, 2018, 3:03 pm

Yโ€™all need to come play in IL and northern IN with 20x and 100x odds.

Skinny, how would you play 100xodds?

Posted by: Skinny on April 16, 2018, 1:59 am

Make the minimum pass line and come bet allowed by the table. Then take as much in odds as you are comfortable playing.

Here is one way to do it. $5 PL/CB with $15/20/25 in odds on the 4&10/5&9/6&8 respectively. Start by getting up on 3 numbers. You would have an average of $75 on the table.

Each hit would pay $35. So 2 hits covers what you have on the table, your initial amount at risk. After 2 hits let it spread out to 6 numbers.

With every number covered you would have $150 on the table with a $5 CB in the center. 4 hits would pay $140 which roughly covers what you have on the table.

I would want another 4 hits for a profit approximately equal to what you have on the table locked up in the rails.

After 8 hits I would increase my odds as follows. A hit on the 4 or 10, press both the 4 & 10 to $30 in odds, put $5 in the rails. A hit on the 5 or 9, press both the 5 & 9 to $40 in odds with the $35 payout and $5 from my rails. A hit on the 6 or 8, press only the number that hits to $50, put $10 in the rails.

After hitting the 4, 5, 6 & 8 you will have all your numbers pressed, an additional $20 in the rails and an additional $120 in odds on the table from your winnings.

Each hit will now pay $65. So 2 hits at the pressed odds on any number will put $130 in your rails. You will now have a PROFIT in your rails approximately equal to the amount you have on the table and it is time to put more money on the table again.

Use the same method as above for pressing your odds.

A hit on the 4 or 10, press both the 4 & 10 to $60 in odds, put $5 in the rails, A hit on the 5 or 9, press both the 5 & 9 to $80 in odds with the $65 payout and $15 from the rails. A hit on the 6 or 8, press only the number that hits to $100, put $15 in the rails.

After hitting the 4, 5 6 & 8 you will have all your numbers pressed, and additional $20 in the rails and an additional $240 in odds on the table from your winnings.

Each hit will now pay $125. 2 hits at the pressed odds on any number will put $250 in your rails. You will now have a PROFIT in your rails approximately equal to the amount you have on the table and it is time to put more money on the table again.

This is one way to play at 100X odds. You can vary the amounts based on your betting level. But I hope you get the idea.

Hold at 3 numbers until you get enough hits to cover your initial amount at risk. Then go to 6 numbers. After enough hits to put a profit in your rails approximately equal to the amount of money you have on the table start pressing your bets. Make a profit equal to the new money on the table and start pressing again.