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Went for three days and had a great time. I tried something new playing poker in between shooting the dice. Just limit holdem and it was a good relaxing game. I know usually it takes me some time to calm down when I’m shooting and this was not so intense. I played the Big Skinny and played mostly come bets other than placing the 6 or 8. I played the ten dollar table with full odds and of course experienced all of the normal ups and downs. I did get some close scrutiny from the pit guys but never missed the back wall and they left me to do my thing. I usually get up early and hit the tables in the morning. There was a three hour delay getting in the first night so I just went straight to bed.
Patience pays off. I wish I could say I had a nice roll in the forties or even thirties. It didn’t go like that. I had a lot of small profitable rolls the first day and went to bed with + 750. Not bad. My whole mission was to see if I could just relax and have a good time. Second day I started out well and added another 250 in the morning only to lose a chunk that evening. Each time I would buy in for one thousand and hold to my game plan.
The third day I started out very rough. More nerves. I was down 500 in the morning when I colored up. I went back to the room and laid down to watch the morning news. Got back up. Bought in for a thousand and shot with one other guy. I was down to 150 and feeling low but had a good talk with myself. I said I was there to gamble and I would not give up on my shot. I got the dice and came back on a nice rip. I colored up with + 116.
My last round before the airport was very positive. I bought in for a grand and had a very nice roll, again in the mid twenties and the CFer next to me had a nice one. I cashed out with 1860. A nice win of 860.
This trip I stuck to the game plan and only played where the conditions were right. I stayed with it the whole time and didn’t let my head get in the way. No monster rolls but ended up on top. It takes patience. There were a lot of distractions. There was a lot of sloppy work by the crew. It kind of surprised me but I caught every one of their mistakes on the payout. Practice at home with chips and payouts really helps. When it slow or when it is really busy is the time to really double check their math. Lots of mistakes. Even my final colorup was off by 600 dollars. The entire crew and pit boss had it wrong three times. No exaggeration.
The last six trips I have come back a winner on five. Nothing big but very positive. I don’t chase it but I do follow through with my game plan.


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Posted by: JawBones on January 31, 2017, 2:19 am

Way to go Dough Boy! Great job and great trip report.

Posted by: FourTen on January 31, 2017, 2:27 am

Awesome!!! Just like Dom once told me,"A win is a win". And you my friend did just that. Sweet!!!

Posted by: Mr.PiP on January 31, 2017, 4:53 pm

Great Report, I been practicing at home with my come bets and a make believe bank roll of 3,000. I color in for 600 dollars for a 10 table. I see the ups and down put I have to admit the PL, Come, Come is the way to go, My balance is still over 3K . You are so right you have to watch the dealers as they make mistakes. I could of sworn the last time out, I was shorted on my return of my come odds when I SO on the come out cycle.

-Mr PiP

Posted by: NofieldFive on January 31, 2017, 5:26 pm

DoughBoy,

That was a great report and has several good points that I will expound upon.

I said I was there to gamble and I would not give up on my shot.

This one line has hit on two good points. Having trust in your practiced shot, and not giving up on it, is huge. This is the mindset that we, as advantage players, must have. After taking all that Golden Touch has to offer you know what the proper dice reaction should be, and in fact, must be. You know your shot, and as long as your shot is reacting as it needs to and you are feeling comfortable you have an advantage. As I say, you have to be brutally honest with yourself in your assessment of the shot. The other point I would like to make about this statement is this. I never like to use the term "gambling" when I am shooting the dice. I gamble on others. I do not consider it gambling when I am tossing the dice, because I know my shot and when the shot is reacting well I am not gambling, I am earning money.

I did get some close scrutiny from the pit guys but never missed the back wall and they left me to do my thing.

This is the quote of the day. "I never missed the back wall.." Make sure you hit the back wall with each and every toss and 98% of the time you will not be hassled.

I wish I could say I had a nice roll in the forties or even thirties. It didn’t go like that. I had a lot of small profitable rolls the first day and went to bed with + 750.

We do not need the huge hands in the 30’s and 40’s to succeed. The "small profitable rolls" will create a profit as long as you are betting correctly and are conservative with your presses early in the roll.
You must break even, or at least not lose much on your average hand length. The short hands will happen, but so will the high teen and rolls in the 20’s. When the 30 or higher happens it is icing on the cake, DoughBoy.

This trip I stuck to the game plan and only played where the conditions were right.

This is so very important. Great job.

I don’t chase it but I do follow through with my game plan.

We can’t chase our losses. Losses will happen. It is called variance. Chasing losses usually does not end well. When we chase, we lose our discipline, focus, and honesty with ourselves.

DoughBoy, you have become the Advantage Player that we knew you could be! I am proud of you.

NFF

Posted by: brothelman on February 1, 2017, 6:40 am

It is so sweet to see someone who has put in the effort reap the rewards.

Congratulations.

Posted by: DoughBoy on February 1, 2017, 4:26 pm

Thanks fellows for the support. Daryl and Brothelman have both been very influential, along with Billy. The mechanics without all the hype. I will say that with the absence of table etiquette these days it is easy to lose your cool. I was at one table where the crew was sleeping. A cfr was having a good role and it was getting long. Right in the middle of this and elderly gentleman came up wanting a marker for a thousand. He was nice but very disruptive. Then he wanted all the hardways and a few other mid table bets. The game was held up for awhile and I called all my bets off (Odds). All the numbers were covered with full odds. The next throw was a seven. Everyone was stunned. Don’t be afraid to take charge of your game. The crew will very seldom step in on your behalf. I also had a situation where half of the table was paid off when the point was made and the other half of the table still had the puck up and played on. I stopped the whole game and demanded to know who was in charge. The pit boss wasn’t any better about it. Speak up and stay aware. Thanks again to GTC.

Posted by: Dr Crapology on February 2, 2017, 1:13 am

Dough Boy,

Rose and I both loved your post and the way you used the GTC way of playing. You and NNF are correct. Short profitable rolls are where the real wins are. The casino never wins a jackpot or has a long roll. They are there to grind it out. Yes the big rolls are exciting, fun and profitable but they are, generally speaking, far and few between.

Yes trust your throw and hang in there. Things will turn around in your favor. That’s exactly what the casino does. A player has a very long roll and the casino gets down but as the players grind it out the casino always wins—not necessarily from us the advantage player, but from the random players making the high house vig bets.

You will continue to do well. Keep up the good work. Rose and I hope to see you soon.

Doc

Posted by: billythekid on February 3, 2017, 4:57 am

It really sounds like you have upped your game on all fronts. Like 5 said tossing well and using good betting strategies is the way to play and does get the money, long hands or not.

Posted by: Carey1001 on February 7, 2017, 7:42 pm

Good job We should apply what we have practice and learn.