I so agree with this.

I see so many charting the numbers it is killing me, so I ask this of you that are have you st there and charted 3500 throws so you can get a true random?

The only way to beat the game is to get an advantage throw.

If you believe that you can chart numbers without an advantage throw and find a trend then go play keno the pay out is much greater and you can find a trend there to right, or are you going to tell me that keno is a random game, but dice is to unless you have an advantage throw.

Those who do the best have the most fun.

For me fun is all about sushi and great pizza or maybe a great steak or a burger, and conversation. The tables are all about business.

I know we have had these discussions in the past and I also know there is a chart in one of your books Dom that shows your edge based on your SRR but I can’t find it. My SRR over the last 1000 recorded throws since my Advanced is 7.7. I know 1000 is not enough to get an accurate result but the dice are really behaving now and I believe it is going to continue this upward trend. I am a come bettor as you may recall but what is my statistical or percentage edge with an SRR of 7.7?

Thanks
jb

JB, that higher the srr the more favorable come bets become, why?

The better you get the more control you have, the more control you have the more you should repeat the same numbers over and over.

Hi B-Man,

I understand that but I thought there was a table that showed exactly what my edge is over the house at various srr’s. I am a come bettor but as my SRR gets higher, I wonder if it might make sense to place 6/8 and/or buy 4/10 when vig is paid on wins only as well as come bets. In other words, with a higher SRR might it make sense to get money out a bit quicker than I presently do? I know what is taught and I play just that way; a Pass Line with odds (I typically play $5 tables so I do 5/25 on line/odds) and 2 come bets initially, after 3 hits, go to a 3rd CB and after 5 hits go to a 4th. From hit 6 on, I keep a come bet out at all times and increase my odds bet with each hit.

Just thinking that if my srr approaches 8, maybe placing/buying from the beginning would be more profitable over the long run. I realize the short rolls will kill you with more money out there but the longer rolls will make money faster. If we are playing with an SRR of 7 to 8 or above, I would think our house edge might make early betting a good idea.

Understanding the math, though, it might be better to keep doing what I do but put more odds out. Most of the tables I play are 10X odds tables.
jb

Jawbones,

I am looking at my "Cutting Edge Craps" book and starting in Chapter 2 page 7 there is a chart. Not sure if this is what you are looking for but check it out if you have that book. Sorry to those that don’t own this book but I do not feel comfortable in paraphrasing in case I interpret incorrectly and I do not know how to enter the chart here in totality. Great information in this book if you don’t have it. It is one I refer to often. Some of the things I can’t do yet but I like the dice theory anyway. Jawbones, hope this helps you out.

Thanks Getagrip. I have searched my library of books and that may be the one book I don’t have about Craps. 😀

Looks like I will need to make a last minute Christmas stop by Amazon and get this one the way to me.

jb