Those of us who play a lot in different casinos in Vegas and Atlantic City as well as down south on occasion, we know that the casinos are well aware that some shooters can beat them. You will often get floormen who are nasty and will tell you that dice control "doesn’t work" or "why are you wasting your time with that?" You never hear them tell random shooters "your shot doesn’t work’ or "why are you wasting time with that?" They know random rollers are no threat to them.
But we are. I know this now from years of playing. The casinos know that dice control is real or they wouldn’t be so uptight about those of us who set the dice and throw in that excellent GTC way.
We are somewhat lucky that almost all dice setters are not dice controllers. But the flip side is that many of these dice setters take way to long to set the dice and that gives dice setters a bad name and thus that name carries over to us even though GTC throwers set and throw the dice in just a few seconds.
We are also lucky that some GTC players ignore the excellent betting advice that Frank gives and play as foolishly as ever. Such betting helps us look like regular gamblers and since most GTCers cannot overcome those high house edge bets they will lose their money. That does make the rest of us look good.
But I also know that in the casinos where I have been a consistent winner I am starting to realize that I really should spread my action around. One floorperson who has told me numerous times that dice control doesn’t work said to me the other day, "You’ve been very lucky here." He emphasized "lucky" to mean he didn’t think it was luck. I am moving to another casino and giving this one a rest.
I think dice controllers should think in terms of not giving action to the same casinos time and again. We don’t want to destroy what we have.
I have to say that I am thankful for the random rollers, the dice setters with no skills, the so-called dice controllers from other camps, and the GTC players who play poorly. But they aren’t enough to guarantee that we will all be left free and clear.
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Posted by: Dice Pilot on July 7, 2012, 1:49 am
Posted by: Finisher on July 7, 2012, 2:03 am
I just hate it when it is the first time at a casino and right off the bat I get heat. Some thing tells me that some one before me said to much.
Their job is to watch the pay offs and see that the game is going fast. Not talking about how your throw will never work.
I say that I will try better and just not let them get to me.
If they say any thing about class or books I say that I will have to look into that and do you really think that may help me ?
Best said NOTHING my .01 worth.
Posted by: Guest on July 7, 2012, 10:41 am
Posted by: Guest on July 7, 2012, 2:02 pm
Posted by: the gman on July 7, 2012, 5:46 pm
1…. for those of us not in or near vegas or AC our options are to play under poor conditions, or play at the
same places more often. IN central Wisconsin we have a decent table 50 minutes east of me, 1 hour and
15 minutes north ( if it is ever open) we have a very very very bouncy 12′ table 1.5 hours north, a very very
bouncy 12 foot table 1.5 hours east and a 16 table 40 minutes east.
I can say i am not nearly good enough to walk up to the 16 table, or either of those bouncy tables and feel i have
an edge. if that can be done i would love to spend a day with anyone that can show me how.
So my way of playing is to bet smaller amounts on the good tables so they dont get upset, when i atake a few dollars
often..
One thing i think we need to be careful of is loading up on the better tables. You get 4 dice controllers on
a tub every wednesday and win in a small casino, that may not last real long.
shakespear had the question…..
to win or not to win, that is the question:
Whether tis nobler i n the mind to suffer
the stairs and glances or outragous pit boss’s
or to take dice against a sea of tables
and by opposing end them. To throw, to
win, to lose no more
and by win say end the heartache and the
thousands endless loss’s that flesh is heir to:
tis a preservation of dice control devoutly to be
wish’d
To throw, to win, to win; perchance to dream: ay
there the rub: for in that win, more dreams may
come; When we have shuffled of this motal
randomness of the dice, must we give pause, theres
the respect be paid to the tables and owners of
which will bear the whips and scorn and the
loses of our dice.
To toss, to win, there is the rub: for in the end
a price will be paid
gman
Posted by: Guest on July 7, 2012, 7:25 pm
Posted by: fscobe on July 8, 2012, 9:07 am
Posted by: Dr Crapology on July 8, 2012, 2:01 pm
Doc
Posted by: Guest on July 8, 2012, 2:21 pm
And let’s face it an average or better GTC player stands out among the craziness. I still haven’t figured out the casino paranoia but the fact that many more players are attempting to select their dice in a way that slows the game down makes sense. If I get hassled I quietly color out and move on. These guys and gals have a job to do and I don’t take it personal. And as good as you get There are a ton of variables to deal with and you still need to have a little old fashion luck.
Posted by: Guest on July 11, 2012, 2:00 pm
