Chevy, Great question. I’d like to add another question.

At a casino last week a player passed his shooting turn to the next player. When the new shooter hit the seven and the table was cleared. He was given the dice back for his "in order turn." Was this a local house rule? I have never seen it done this way before, what I have seen-you seven out the dice moves to the next player. Just wondering. 😕

The chinese fire drill is not a thing to do it will cause you problems with the house that you do ot want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What to do look at the guy like he is a total nut case because he is, then ask have you lost your mind.

Or just do it and when it pissis the casino off and they tell you to go, or tell you not to set the dice, say thank you i asked for that!!!!!!!!!!

Switching spots is a bad idea. It also looks bad. When was the last time you saw anybody else do something like that?

Now if you’re at SL1 and a friend is SL2, there is no need to change spots. Just kindly take a step back from the table to ‘give the shooter some room’. I do this on a regular basis even when playing with randies.

Easy….walk away. I’ve done it a few times in places where there were a few of us and I knew the boxman. I just take myself out of the equation and preserve my ability to come back and play later. That’s the advantage play. Sure you could hold your own spot, but if someone really wants the spot, why change the energy at the table. The conditions will not be the same. Have the discipline, keep a clear mind and come back when conditions are 100% in your favor.

Set44, It is a house rule, and can be different for each casino so be sure to ask, if you’re the next player to finish out that roll, if you will be given your turn too.

If a player passes the dice during a roll, walks away and abandons the roll, or if the box/pit has taken the dice away from another player….the dice go to the next player to finish out the roll. If this should happen to you, meaning the dice are passed to you to finish the roll, MAKE SURE to clarify that after you finish the other player’s roll, that you get your turn at the dice immediately following. Most of the time, the answer is yes.

This last trip, I finished out a guy’s roll, throwing 15 numbers and then got my turn immediately following. I threw 30 numbers, so it was almost like a practice. One seven away from a 45 roll. Good money maker!

Regards,
SectionEight

Taking over another players roll can be a good thing as Section Eight pointed out. I have had this happen a couple of times. When you seven out without making the prior shooters point, you get another turn. However as I understand it, if you make his point, it now becomes your turn and when you seven out after that your turn is over. If someone out there knows different please post as I would like to know if I am right or not.

Since Alligator Rose is a lefty and I am a righty, she is usually at SR1 and I am SL1. Here is play that we have used a couple of times. One time we were at a table that was too high for her and she cannot roll as effectively. She started her turn, made an excuse and the dice were passed to me. I finished her turn followed by my turn. This was something we had planned in advance. I had two nice rolls in a row–like practice. Only do this once and then leave the casino as the casino will not like it and it calls attention to you.

Doc

Dr. Crapology that was a smart move. Really smart. You and Alligator Rose must make some team.

You try not to do too many things other players don’t do. No random player switches spots. Its enough that we take great care with our rolls, that should be the only difference between us and them. The them are all the other players.

As others have already said—the fire drill is a bad idea! I won’t play Craps with people who do it as it makes me extremely uncomfortable when I am at the table with them and then my mental state is not right to have my best dice shot. I usually say something like. "Actually, I was just getting ready to color up so you can have this spot." Then I do color up and leave that table.

Besides just bringing unwanted attention to us it really ticks the crew off. If you asking for comps then they have to follow you around with the comp sheet to make sure you are getting the proper amount and also the crew has to move any bets on the box numbers around to make sure they properly correspond with your position at the table. No one likes extra work for no apparent good reason.

One night a gentleman came and pushed me aside and got into my spot telling me he could throw best from that spot. I then said "be my guest, you can have the whole table". I went to the next table and bought in. The box person actually brought my comp sheet over to the next table and thanked me for being so polite in a bad situation. In that situation he didn’t seem to mind the extra work because there was a good reason for my moving around. My point is just try to think from the other person’s perspective and try to be smart and gracious in a bad situation. I think that is all you can really hope to do.

"Broadway" wrote: No random player switches spots.

On numerous occasions I have witnessed the general public play Chinese Fire Drill. That’s a false assumption.

Reread Chevy’s post, I don’t believe he stated anywhere in there that he knew the individual or that he/she was a GTC "Trained" player. While I agree with the concept that you don’t walk up, take over a table and start jockeying back and forth for the best position, I see no reason to not act like the rest of the table if they are jumping around when you get there. If the Crew isn’t complaining and everyone is having fun then you call attention to yourself just being "Stiff". I’m not saying that you brazenly jump in, but, if one of them suggests that you move to your preferred spot why not take advantage, especially if the crew is into it.

The idea is not to call attention to yourself and by being a stick in the mud at a party table your doing exactly that. But then again why would you be at a party table anyway.

Hell here in the CC/BH area you play hell finding tables that are opened completely, both sides during the week. We have gone to the extent of asking the crew to change sides, left to right and right to left, to allow us all time with the dice. Most have no problem with that. In fact it generally turns into a great time at the table. The crew really gets into it. Course it helps that we all tip.

And the S1/2 thing is exactly the way to proceed. Just back out while he makes his throw then move back in if a bet or change needs to be made.

"Chevy" wrote: What should we do when someone wants to switch to SL1 when we are standing there?

To answer your question simply Chevy. If all things being equal my answer is 😀 No thank you 😀

Was this person a dice setter?

I think we have to narrow it down. Anyone can set dice but ws the guy a real controlled shooter? If he was he should be ashamed of himself.

"Getagrip" wrote:

One night a gentleman came and pushed me aside and got into my spot telling me he could throw best from that spot.

I did recognize this one gentleman as a GTC grad but I have also had other players ask to switch spots with me and I never stayed around after coloring up to see if they were dice setters or what their shots looked like.

Dom should go "gunning" for any GTC trained controller who now asks anyone to switch spots. Maybe in the old days like eight years ago no one knew what was going on but now everyone knows what’s happening.

The first time I rolled dice with a group of GTC ers. I did not like the idea of moving over from my spot to SL1 at the time I had not taken the class yet and did not want any more attention to come to this group. They were graces enough to lent me shoot with them. We all had fun and I hope to shoot with them again.
I have taken the class now but still would rather not draw attention when there is no need too.
Good Rolling. 😀

Wow – thank you to all for your responses. I think I like the idea of saying "I was just about to color up…" and leave. That is probably the best answer, and how I will handle this situation in the future.

Thanks to all for your helpful advice.

–Chevy

In the old old days we did the fire drill and no one noticed. Now it is probably a good thing to forget about it. You should also forget about (ever!) telling anyone to move his chips. "The times they are a changin."

"SectionEight" wrote: Easy….walk away. I’ve done it a few times in places where there were a few of us and I knew the boxman. I just take myself out of the equation and preserve my ability to come back and play later. That’s the advantage play. Sure you could hold your own spot, but if someone really wants the spot, why change the energy at the table. The conditions will not be the same. Have the discipline, keep a clear mind and come back when conditions are 100% in your favor.

Set44, It is a house rule, and can be different for each casino so be sure to ask, if you’re the next player to finish out that roll, if you will be given your turn too.

If a player passes the dice during a roll, walks away and abandons the roll, or if the box/pit has taken the dice away from another player….the dice go to the next player to finish out the roll. If this should happen to you, meaning the dice are passed to you to finish the roll, MAKE SURE to clarify that after you finish the other player’s roll, that you get your turn at the dice immediately following. Most of the time, the answer is yes.

This last trip, I finished out a guy’s roll, throwing 15 numbers and then got my turn immediately following. I threw 30 numbers, so it was almost like a practice. One seven away from a 45 roll. Good money maker!

Regards,
SectionEight

I do this all the time when S8 is in my spot. I ask him to switch and then he leaves. 🙂

Now that is advantage positioning!

I will go gunning a GTC Grad that draws attention to him or herself with this type of nonsense.

Timmer calls his mentoring group "Under the Radar" . That is a good motto for all to follow!

Dominator

Switching spots if done on a low key basis is no big deal. From time to time players have asked me for my spot and I have given it to them.After all we are all in it to make money.If the shooter is more comfortable shooting from my spot why not let him have it.The casinos I play in dont care.