Take a look at the other thread.

That is why Sandman said he drove 3 hours north, did not like what was available and drove home 3 hours.

JesJac, I am not talking about a spot to shoot FROM as SL1 or SR, I am talking about the spot on the table that your shoot TO, i.e. your target. Your dice will be coming in at an angle if you have to shoot to the left of your target. Remember this is the spot ON the table that you know gives you the best result. Professor

Yes,

I don’t think many of us would go to a full table and start playing if any of the conditions were not to our advantage and that would include many chips in your landing spot (at least I hope that would be the case) I think the question has to do with the fact that you are already playing and into a substantial roll when someone puts their chips in your landing spot. Now what do you do? I have had this happen and have taken my bets back to flat passline (I am not a Come bettor, yet 🙂 ) and finished the hand until that decision was completed. Sometimes I saved a lot of money and sometimes the roll went on and I lost money by not having my bets up. Maybe just randomness and variance took over or maybe my slight adjustment of landing spot was the correct one and my edge continued. Maybe it is just a matter of some confidence and not too much stupidity and how to tell those two apart! I commend NFF if he just picks up his chips if this occurs and walks leaving his passline as a dealer toke or whatever. That is GREAT discipline! I aspire to that!

I think the questions here that can be answered is HOW to make adjustments properly to become a target shooter. How do the instructors and long time GTC shooters make those adjustments? First,what are the top choices to go to if your landing spot is filled? Over the top and behind? In front? Left or right? Then how to accomplish that? For a tall shooter or for an average to short shooter? Any set changes due to these adjustments and what about the dice landing on a slight angle now? Don’t worry about it or make some other adjustment to compensate?

I think we would like a peek into the mental and physical process that is involved. Hope we can get some insight into the choices and the mind decisions for physical adjustments if this happens to us.

Thanks! I know this is a long read and sorry I don’t have answers.

I believe you will find others have the same answers.

Me, my two big wins came from games where there was a stack of chips right on my throwing line. One time the stack was large ($5 table with a bunch of repeats on points). The other time the stack was smaller but still about 5 chips (quarter table). I was forced to gently loft the dice over the chips. Both wins were just at 10K.

Hell, as I said in another post, the next time I should have someone put chips right on the line I throw just behind the pass line. I would probably get my angle to be better and stop the dice from bouncing as much.

"getagrip" wrote: Maybe just randomness and variance took over or maybe my slight adjustment of landing spot was the correct one and my edge continued. Maybe it is just a matter of some confidence and not too much stupidity and how to tell those two apart!
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I think we would like a peek into the mental and physical process that is involved. Hope we can get some insight into the choices and the mind decisions for physical adjustments if this happens to us.

Thanks! I know this is a long read and sorry I don’t have answers.

Add the latter to the prior and it’s telling the three apart. So many times, as noted in responses to my last laugh post and very applicable here, the mental part will play a huge role. How many times I do not know, where I’ve let a reaction to a table event (money thrown down, yelling, high fives, whatever), or chips added, or my own actions such as just having upped odds as the roll progresses, that I either let myself get into my own head or I take that confidence (after all, I’m now mid-teens or twenties in roll count) and make it happen. I did have a huge stack lately get put down in front of my spot. I looked and decided that I’d been lofting OK and kept my spot, clearing the chips perfectly. Thinking back on the way home, I noticed that he noticed and had moved them. So think it through, make or don’t make the adjustment, and stay confident…. then use what happens as a learning experience / confidence builder.

It’s a situational answer and so many nuances as 5" gap is different than 9" and we know our own skill level or risk point to attempt to hit the gap, move the target, or as noted, turn off most bets for a few rolls. I just ordered cheaper chips that won’t crack or chip when hit hard like my custom clay ones have, so that I can once again load the landing zone so I can better practice this.

Thanks for the post as it’s gotten me to take more action on my own practice!

Don

Damn …. I wish this was one post or I could put it all together

I copied and pasted Getagrip’s question to the other post

Dom

Thanks Dom!

I am following both threads so I saw that. Yes, too bad these are two threads. I didn’t know which one to post on but since the original question came from the Professor, I came here. I would guess most people are following both but it does make it more confusing for getting all of the questions answered.

So, I guess what you were kind of saying is be the athlete you are and use your talent for the toss and your hand eye coordination and just do it! If your gut tells you it is not within your talent range then definitely reduce bets or walk away. Yes,I do practice this at home but am wondering if I am doing the physical things necessary in these situations to give it my best shot!

Thanks for always trying to answer my many questions!