Hi All
It has come to my attention that some of our graduate GTC students are not following the 20 commandments at local casinos. This is really bad because this is happening at many casinos around the country and also at a casino that I am going to play at more and more and no one on this board wants to see me move from my "Blue Aura" to a "Black Aura"!
I mean this people …… Do not let me see this happening or hear about this.
All the 20 Commandments need to be followed so that we all don’t get harassed at the casinos and I will post them all below, but here are the major ones:
1. Do not discuss dice sets, dice throws, bounces, backspins or anything of any depth at the craps table. You can discuss philosophy, religion, history, literature, science or other trivial subjects, but stay away from any and all dice control talk. Weighty talk can bring down the weight of the casino upon you, something you don’t want. NEVER correct or make comments about someone’s toss at the tables!
2. Do not give advice to anyone while the game is progressing. Even if a random roller asks you a question, refer him to the dealer with “Ask the dealers, they are the experts.” This makes you appear humble. Humble is good.
3. Do not take longer than 10 seconds to set the dice, grab, grip, aim and throw the dice. If you take longer than 10 seconds the casinos will think you are slowing down the game and that will bring attention to you. The good dice controllers of Golden Touch average about 7 to 8 seconds from start to finish on their rolls.
4. Always hit the back wall but when you don’t, please give an indication that you have screwed up. Don’t wait for the box-being to yell at you. If the box-being yells at you, apologize. Do not argue with him or her.
5. Do not do the fire drill at the table and fully switch positions back and forth. Again friends who are gamblers and are shooting together do not do this and you must not do this either. You can step back a little so your teammate can get a little closer to the back wall but moving chips and changing positions will only draw attention to you. We draw attention to ourselves already because of the way we shoot. We don’t want to draw any more attention.
6. Do not ask other players to move their chips from your landing zone. Does a gambler ask someone to move chips to have a better place to land? NO! Neither should you. You must practice to be able to hit different spots at the tables. This weekend a student actually went to the opposite end of the table from where he was standing and asked someone to move their chips. How ridiculous is that? He broke his own concentration and you can guess what number came up with all eyes upon him! He became a laughing stock for the rest of the players.
7. Do Not let anyone see you put deodorant or any other substance on your fingers to relieve some perspiration. Does a random roller ever do this?
Dominator
All the 20 Commandments:
The 20 Commandments
of Dice Control Camouflage
1. Do not take longer than 10 seconds to set the dice, grab, grip, aim and throw the dice. If you take longer than 10 seconds the casinos will think you are slowing down the game and that will bring attention to you. The good dice controllers of Golden Touch average about 7 to 8 seconds from start to finish on their rolls.
2. Always hit the back wall but when you don’t, please give an indication that you have screwed up. Don’t wait for the box-being to yell at you. If the box-being yells at you, apologize. Do not argue with him or her.
3. Do not discuss dice sets, dice throws, bounces, backspins or anything of any depth at the craps table. You can discuss philosophy, religion, history, literature, science or other trivial subjects, but stay away from any and all dice control talk. Weighty talk can bring down the weight of the casino upon you, something you don’t want.
4. Act as if you are a regular player at the tables. Don’t be snooty. If someone has a good roll, be he a chicken feeder or the best of the GTC shooters or anyone in between, cheer when he hits his point. Feel free to yell out on random rollers, “Good shooting!” when he makes his point. The pit will see you are excited about a guy who really has no edge over the house. Make it look as if all shooters have the same chance to have great rolls and that you are rooting for all of them equally.
5. Do not give advice to anyone while the game is progressing. If a random roller asks you a question, refer him to the dealer with “Ask the dealers, they are the experts.” This makes you appear humble. Humble is good.
6. You might try to get in the line that your spouse or significant other is a slot player who plays long hours. It’s good to be looked at as one of a gambling couple.
7. When you are having a good roll, do not become an egomaniac. Even if your dice are so perfect that you can call your number, don’t do it. The time for showing off at the craps tables has ended. In the past, the great shooters could sometimes put on a show of skill but that time is now over with. Just act happy and excited, the way a normal craps player acts, when you hit your point and groan when you seven out (which is easy to do!).
8. If you are disputing a call by the stickman or the box-being, do so politely. Do not yell or speak sarcastically to casino personnel. You win no friends on the other side of the dice table by being obnoxious.
9. The dealers live on tips. Be generous with your tipping. You’d be surprised how stress free most craps games are when the dealers think of you as a “George” – which means a guy who tips and is on their side. If you’re on their side, they’ll most likely be on your side.
10. Be friendly to the box-beings and the pit personnel. Act like a regular gambler at the tables – except don’t bet foolishly the way they do. If you see a “yo” don’t bet the “yo” because that’s for dopey yo-yo’s!
11. If you happen to like the casino you’re playing at, let the dealers, the box, and the pit know that you like them. That’s good PR and also encourages them to continue to act in a manner that you enjoy.
12. Do not take notes at the tables. We have seen students taking notes while we are shooting the dice to determine how many rolls we did or for whatever esoteric system they think they are employing. You can record rolls using chips from your rack. Some of you take notes to see a trend. There are no trends in craps on random rollers and GTC shooters have trends based on their sets – just bet as they do.
13. Do not do the fire drill at the table and fully switch positions back and forth. Again friends who are gamblers and are shooting together do not do this and you must not do this either. You can step back a little so your teammate can get a little closer to the back wall but moving chips and changing positions will only draw attention to you. We draw attention to ourselves already because of the way we shoot. We don’t want to draw any more attention.
14. Do not ask other players to move their chips from your landing zone. Does a gambler ask someone to move chips to have a better place to land? NO! Neither should you. You must practice to be able to hit different spots at the tables. This weekend a student actually went to the opposite end of the table from where he was standing and asked someone to move their chips. How ridiculous is that? He broke his own concentration and you can guess what number came up with all eyes upon him! He became a laughing stock for the rest of the players.
15. Know how much you are going to get paid for a bet.
16. Know what you are going to do if you get paid on a winning bet.
17. Make your presses at the right time and not out of order.
18. Keep the game moving. Make your bets all at once – don’t wait until the last second to throw out a new bet.
19. Don’t constantly keep calling your bets on and off. This just angers the dealers and a gambler just doesn’t do this very often. Gamblers will occasionally call their bets off but it is not an ongoing practice. On random rollers, it doesn’t matter what numbers he hits – it’s random!
20. There is a final commandment that might be needed in the near future – or right now if you are reading this book several years after its publication. During the Come-Out roll, you might not want to set the dice at all. Since you can’t seven out, just gently roll the dice down the table and take your chances with the math on a random roll. You have a 2 to 1 edge on the Come-Out roll and this might be the time to act like a regular shooter. To give you more time at the tables, it might be necessary to act like a random shooter at times when doing so will not hurt you too badly.
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Posted by: Dr Crapology on June 1, 2015, 12:13 am
I would add one other item—NEVER BUY IN IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMEONE ELSE’S ROLL. WAIT UNTIL THERE IS A BREAK IN THE ACTION. A BREAK IN THE ACTION WOULD BE WHEN THE SHOOTER MAKES HIS POINT OR THERE IS A 7 OUT. I had this happen twice my last time in the casino by a fairly recent student that I knew. He should have known better. Think he must have slept through the class. One time was a 7 on the next roll the other a short roll. I was pi**ed.
I must admit that many years ago (I was a new to GTC), I came up to a table and several GTC people that I knew-who aren’t active any more—kept telling me to buy in as the guy was having a great roll. I did. It was a big mistake. The rollers next roll was a 7. Talk about getting some bad looks. There was not a hole bit enough for me to crawl in. It will never happen again. I only hope that others will learn from my experience.
If someone, anyone, comes up to the table and pulls out money, suggest he not do so. If he insist on buying in immediately offer to loan or sell him some chips. In this manner the game will not be interrupted.
One time I walked up to a table and there was TommyC at SL1. There was a great roll in progress from SR. He did not say a word to me but handed me $100 in chips. I was able to get in on a great roll with no interruption. And yes, we settled up after the hand was over.
Folks keep this in mind unless you want someone to jump your ass!!!!!
Doc
Posted by: Mr Finesse on June 1, 2015, 5:20 pm
The most important aspect of playing craps is flying under the RADAR especially if you are a GTC controlled shooter. Our success at the table draws enough attention let alone talking, participating in a Fire Drill or simple doing other things that will draw attention to your shooting skills. If you think the suits and others on the staff aren’t watching let me tell you a short story about an incident I was involved in many years ago before we even started GTC. I was an instructor for another group and this is a true story.
This happened at the Wild Wild West in AC, it was on a Monday after class had finished on Sunday on a hot and humid summer day. A big player who was going to become an instructor for this other group asked me to borrow my Arid Extra Dry which I carried in my pocked, but he was not very discreet about it. the eye in the sky saw him and when the dice came to him the floor man stopped him from shooting the dice because they told him he was putting a foreign substance on the dice. This guy was a very big player and he had a huge spread, needless to say he made a large commotion.
Then the dice came to me and not a thing was said to me about using anything on my fingers. After the session was over I went up to the Floor person and asked him about this entire incident and we talked for a good 20 minutes. The floor person saw and understood what had happened and told me that they let me shoot because I always wiped my hand on my shirt before every shoot I took. They knew my entire routine, how I set the dice up, stood up straight and that is when I would wipe my hand on my shirt, and then picked them up to toss them. They knew my fingers were clean before I threw them.
They are watching, be smart do not draw attention to yourself or others
Please follow the 20 Commandments and if you can’t follow them please play another game.
Posted by: DoughBoy on June 1, 2015, 9:50 pm
Posted by: getagrip on June 1, 2015, 10:05 pm
Posted by: DavidM on June 2, 2015, 4:25 pm
Posted by: MIDNIGHT on June 2, 2015, 11:43 pm
Midnight
Posted by: Dice Shark on June 3, 2015, 6:16 pm
Posted by: Mr Finesse on June 4, 2015, 7:56 pm
the incident will be addressed in great detail at all future classes. GTC does not need grief by casino staff members which is caused by GTC student not using their heads.
Posted by: OneMoonCircles on June 5, 2015, 6:25 am
another student, nice guy, but he just doesn’t get it. Blew my mind.
Then I thought about myself. I didn’t get it last September like I should have. Randman’s observation finally hit home. Thank you Randy. I have raised my SRR to 10 following his advise.
Frank said it in his book, 3 years to get proficient and 10 years to get great. Looks like he was right.
I haven’t always followed the 20 commandments to the letter but that is a work in progress for me. I will get better. It wasn’t the instructors fault. Just mine.
OMC
Posted by: Finisher on June 6, 2015, 7:41 am
Good Rolling. 🙂 🙂
Posted by: sevenout on June 13, 2015, 2:08 am
Posted by: Dr Crapology on June 13, 2015, 11:38 am
