Are you sure they were not referring to the "Big Skinny". It would be easy to mistake one for the other. 😉 😉 😉

Stealthman,
You might be thinking about a series of articles I wrote titled "What is the Best Progression for You." They are located under the "Stickman’s Stance" link on the GoldenTouchCraps.com main page. Here are the links:

http://www.goldentouchcraps.com/Stickman/stick0003.shtml
http://www.goldentouchcraps.com/Stickman/stick0004.shtml
http://www.goldentouchcraps.com/Stickman/stick0005.shtml

Those are very useful charts.
I panicked when we switched to this board, thinking they had been lost forever, and asked Skinny for the links.

All new and even experienced players can learn tons from those charted progressions.
They really add another dimension to your betting strategy once there have been enough practice rolls recorded and it becomes possible to separate the dream of how many numbers you can repeat from the reality of how many numbers you usually do repeat.

That’s good work there.

Since I have a small BR I place bet min. with single odds and one for the dealers and one on top of my place bet just encase I roll my point right away to replace the dealers bet.I then add one to dealers bet and take the win till I am max. on dealers bet then start up a unite. This is my way of doing a different 5 count when I am rolling. I just hate it when there is a point 7 out or short roll. But with not putting out the full odds for dealers right off it has saved me $$$ plus it seems to get them into the game more .Just a thought.
Some times I place to much odds for them and there has been some talk between the dealers about how to handle that bet if they do not see it. Some say it is a place bet others say just increase the flat and hope to add more to odds on longer roll. I try just to stop adding to theirs and add to mine.
I like the up a unite for I am not at the point were I hit the same number again and again. I may hit several numbers before I hit 5 or 6 of the same numbers.
Jut thought I would throw this out there any ideas?
Am open to any comments good or bad.
Good Rolling. 😀

"Stephen C" wrote: Are you sure they were not referring to the "Big Skinny". It would be easy to mistake one for the other. 😉 😉 😉

That is correct Stephen C, I am often mistaken for Stickman because we look so similar. 🙂 🙂 😀

That is correct Stephen C, I am often mistaken for Stickman because we look so similar. Says Skinny.

BTW, how do you do those quoted sentences?

But they can be mistaken for one another.

Helpful, willing to listen, able to throw with repeatablity, etc…

"Stealthman" wrote:

BTW, how do you do those quoted sentences?

Tap the quote box in the upper right hand corner of the post you want to quote. You can also edit the quote as I did by deleting those sections that do not apply to what you are writing.

So that is what that is for!

I did en even know that it was there.
Good Rolling. 😀

Thank you for bringing this back to the forum. I have followed the up-a-unit since it was first posted with good success. I do not press until I have as much in my profit rack as I have on the table.
It is very easy to keep track if you put the income from the current roll in the tray closest to yourself. Sometimes in practice the up a unit outperforms the modified or unmodified "Big Skinny".
This method is easy to learn and follow. Since Colorado has a $100 limit, at the end of 7 hits on either the 6 or 8 you are maxed at $96 if you switch to the press and pull (some casinos allow the full $100 and pay $117, here they must pay up to the next dollar if that is the smallest chip in the bank). Makes me wonder what the house advantage drops to at the $100.

OneMoonCircles

Let’s see if I can do this right.

For placing the 6 in this circumstance there are 11 possible outcomes in a random distribution:

Six times the 7 will appear and you lose your $100 place bet.

Five times a 6 will appear where you get back your original bet and win $117.

So 11 x $100 for the bets equals $1100.

5 x ($100 + $117) = $1085

The house edge is that $15 divided by the $1100 bet or 1.36%

For those who have not met Skinny and Stickman yet, they are identical twins. Hard to tell Skinny’s throw from Stickman’s!!!!! They are very similar.

Doc

"Chuckman" wrote: Let’s see if I can do this right.

For placing the 6 in this circumstance there are 11 possible outcomes in a random distribution:

Six times the 7 will appear and you lose your $100 place bet.

Five times a 6 will appear where you get back your original bet and win $117.

So 11 x $100 for the bets equals $1100.

5 x ($100 + $117) = $1085

The house edge is that $15 divided by the $1100 bet or 1.36%

To quote Professor Higgins, "By jove, I think she’s [he’s] got it!"

I am going to see My Fair Lady tonight and have Lerner and Lowe on my brain 😀

I hate to be a nit-picker, but if you actually placed $100 on the 6 you would probably be paid only $116. The house would drop the 2/3 of a dollar the 7 – 6 odds would dictate. However, if you place $102 you would be paid $119, The calculation of the house edge would be slightly changed to:

Six times the 7 will appear and you lose your $102 place bet.

Five times a 6 will appear where you get back your original bet and win $119.

So 11 x $102 for the bets equals $1122.

5 x ($102 + $119) = $1105

The house edge is that $17 divided by the $1122 bet or 1.52%

You are correct except Chuckman was answering the question OneMoonCircles asked, in the post just before Chuckman’s post, about the Colorado casino which actually pays $117 for a $100 place bet on the 6. You may have missed OneMoonCircles post at the top of this page. I have quoted it below.

"OneMoonCircles" wrote: Thank you for bringing this back to the forum. I have followed the up-a-unit since it was first posted with good success. I do not press until I have as much in my profit rack as I have on the table.
It is very easy to keep track if you put the income from the current roll in the tray closest to yourself. Sometimes in practice the up a unit outperforms the modified or unmodified "Big Skinny".
This method is easy to learn and follow. Since Colorado has a $100 limit, at the end of 7 hits on either the 6 or 8 you are maxed at $96 if you switch to the press and pull (some casinos allow the full $100 and pay $117, here they must pay up to the next dollar if that is the smallest chip in the bank). Makes me wonder what the house advantage drops to at the $100.

OneMoonCircles

Good! Drops the house edge by .16%. You can’t bet $102 because of the $100 limit. Any incorrect bet must be paid up at least the smallest chip in the bank which is generally $1. Makes the dealers more careful because that reduces the house edge.

OMC

Sorry everyone. That will teach me for not paying close attention. 😳 😳