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Do you bye in for the same ?
Do you stick to one game or change if your throw looks good or bad ?
Do you start at min. bet or do you bet higher .
Or do you look for an empty table ? Do you care what the min. bet is ?
I don’t mind being the first at a table any more but rather not be the only roller .
The table seems to get full after a little while .
Good Rolling. 🙂 🙂


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Posted by: Dominator on April 7, 2015, 10:26 pm

"Finisher" wrote: Do you bye in for the same ?

If you mean at practice versus casino play, No I buy in for less in practice

"Finisher" wrote: Do you stick to one game or change if your throw looks good or bad ?

If you meant do I change tables, if my throw looks bad, no, I just don’t play at all

"Finisher" wrote: Do you start at min. bet or do you bet higher .

This one is important to understand. I have said this before, we are not mind readers. All of us have had our best throw of the session on the first, or second, or 5th. So if you are playing with an edge, then why would anyone start with a lower amount instead of their normal amount that they bet. You are just glossing winnings if your big roll of the night is your first roll.

"Finisher" wrote: Or do you look for an empty table ? Do you care what the min. bet is ?

Table min is not important to me. I like a table that has at least 2 other players

Dominator

Posted by: JawBones on April 8, 2015, 2:14 am

"Finisher" wrote: Do you bye in for the same ?
Do you stick to one game or change if your throw looks good or bad ?
Do you start at min. bet or do you bet higher .
Or do you look for an empty table ? Do you care what the min. bet is ?
I don’t mind being the first at a table any more but rather not be the only roller .
The table seems to get full after a little while .
Good Rolling. 🙂 🙂

Hi Finisher,

My wife and I always buy in for the same amount ($500 each) when we play together. We always play on a $5.00 table and do the Big Skinny betting pattern starting with $5 Pass/Come bets and 5 X odds (although we will sometimes do 3, 4, 5 X Odds). We increase our Odds bets after 8 hits.

I do care about table mins since I am kind of new having had my first training just over a year ago so I much prefer to play a $5 table.

The only thing that matters to us is if we can get our spots (SL1 and 2). Don’t really care how many others are playing but we tend to enjoy it more with fewer players. We don’t mind playing just the 2 of us but Craps is a social game so we also enjoy it when it is more crowded. You get more stupid players with no sense of etiquette when you have a full table.

If we are not shooting well, we won’t stay long but to give ourselves a chance to get warmed up we will usually go at least 3 sessions apiece before quitting. If we have a nice win after the first session, more often than not we stop there. After all, the object is to make money so if we’ve done that quickly, we are ok with calling it a day.

Nice thread. I look forward to see what others have to say.

Posted by: Dr Crapology on April 8, 2015, 2:25 am

Finisher,

Rose and Doc talked this over and here is what we do:

1. we try and practice the same way we would play in the casino.

2. we buy in for the same amount as we would buy in for in a real casino.

3. We stick with the hard way set. We don’t change anything. We may make a little adjustment as to the height of the throw or lower a finger if one die is leading, but that is about all. Very minor.

4. We like an empty table since there are generally two of us. The table usually will attract other players pretty quick anyway. Often by the time both of us buy in there will be one or two players join us before the first throw. With that said, if we can find a semi-full table with our respective positions open we will jump on it. If one of us gets to the table before the other, the early one will buy in and place his or her player’s card to reserve the other’s position.

5. We used to start play a little lower bet in the beginning of a session, but we have changed that since the first roll can be a good one. We are betting well within our bank roll and know we can trust out throw to bring us back in the long run.

6. Like Dominator we don’t really change anything. In both practice and in the casino if things are not going well we will simply leave the table or become a blocker and not roll for a while.

. 7 As to Minimum bet we do prefer a $5 table but a $10 table is welcome as it does not scare us at all. If the game is a 3/4/5 game we may start at $10 even if it is a $5 table to get more odds. We play at some casinos that offer 100 times or 20 times odds so will start at about 5 times odds and increase the odds as the roll progresses. A $25 table is a little pricey for us but we have been practicing for a $25 table but frankly it does make us a little nervous, but we are adjusting. Actually played a $25 one time this year and won a little money. A $100 table forget it–way to much for our blood pressure!!!!!!!.

As an added item if we have been at the table a long time, had three turns with the dice, and it may be an hour to 1 1/2 hour before we will get the dice again we may leave and come back another time–the casino tables are open somewhere.

Hope that helps.

Rose and Doc

Posted by: Cmcierra on April 8, 2015, 11:51 am

I don’t change anything at all. I play as I practice.

Cmcierra

Posted by: HardNine on April 8, 2015, 3:44 pm

I buy in for 600, split 500/100 in the rail for my bets / CF bets… that way I practice betting from the correct rail

I bet according to the table I expect to see and the odds. IL and IN have mostly 100x odds but a certain place in PA I’m going to on Sunday WILL NOT ALLOW pushing, so I can’t put $11/1 on the line with $35 odds, very strict to $33 on the $11, so this week, I’m practicing for that house. (please chime in on whether I should just put 12 and pay crew on the win and put $36 odds or not to risk pissing off crew by having 3 cheque denominations out there)

I’ll also change the line from $5, to $10, to $15 to be very comfortable on my ongoing bets if I end up playing at those table minimums.

I actually like hitting an empty table. I went here in IL a few weeks ago and had gone around 4 times, was on my 5th hand when I was told they were going to close the table. I ended up rolling a 27 and by the time I finished, the table was full and they shut down a different table.

Doc/Rose point #7 spot on with me too!

Posted by: JesJac on April 8, 2015, 4:10 pm

I think you guys do not practice enough.

I took a private class just before Atlantic City because that weekend was booked for me. Practiced like hell, 2 hours on a slow day.

Going to play is like going to make a withdrawal at the bank. 9 sessions only 2 losses and both came just after big wins and my head got a bit large so I did not pay attention as I should have. After the last one, which came after a septuple win, only a pair of rolls (7x my buy in), then the next weekend a loss and more loss chasing it. Even that was only 2x my buy in.

I got back to viewing the video. Felt like an ass for missing my concentration points. Practiced. Got my stuff back together and had a great night last night — short night and I was tired by the second roll as two people at the table had big rolls (I do not bet much on others) just 2.5x my buy in.
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Practice more. Go to another live class or just pay for a private tutoring — god knows it does not cost more than you can make in one night at the quarter table.

I teach doctors and lay people how to fix bodies (MeningealRelease.com) They often wonder why I tell them to come to 5 or 6 live seminars in the first year. The ones that do, do not wonder.
If you are going to be a pro at this — and, since one definition of a pro is getting paid (another is someone truly good at it) — and if you want to get paid for your work, you do enough so you will get paid.

Practice like hell, buy in for a bunch, win and go on vacation. One guy was mentioning that they had a table on the cruise he was on and since he had his own dice he practiced during the day ON THIER TABLE!! (the cruise casinos are usually only open at night). Profitable cruise no matter what expense the cabin was.

I am off to London. Last night paid for my upgrade to lay flat beds since I am on the night flight. I will give a report on the Hippodrome and Aspers (the only ones that have dice) when I return. Likely upgraded to first again courtesy of Dom and Golden Touch.

THANK YOU!

If you are worrying that much, you need to practice a lot more and maybe come early to arrange some personal training or arrange to stay late and get some personal training. And no, I have no vested interest in Golden Touch just in life and living well.

If this sounds a bit like a rant, sorry, some doc was just giving me a complaint which is (in the end) because he neither studied nor practiced enough to do ABC™ well. Study more, get trained more and practice more. Then come play some black and purple 🙂 Two more wins and I will start there. And yes, I started at the red tables too.

Jesse

Posted by: Finisher on April 9, 2015, 4:54 am

JesJac Have you read Outliers the story of success Malcolm Gladwell. Chapter 2 The 10,000 Hour Rule .
Good Rolling. 🙂 🙂

Posted by: JesJac on April 11, 2015, 7:52 am

Yes. It is why I practice like hell.

Posted by: Mr Finesse on April 12, 2015, 5:29 pm

Imperfect practice will not give you a good toss. It will just make a toss stay bad. Most problems are with the Grip, please practice your grip and get it right.