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Practice-Practice-Practice

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Dom says it- Mr.Finesse says it- Billy and Darrell they say it. And many of you on the board say it. I want to thank all of you for encouraging practice and Especially all the posters that record and post all their stories for all of us to share.

Do you know why? There are many ways to Influence others with the Phychology of Persuasion with comments and actions that can lead the stuborn to get an answer, get a result, get someone to act on that small comment and all the super posts about the "Practice Session".

I do not post often, but I do study this game of dice and I get encouaged by all of you in what you do in practice and the guidence to get better. Can anyone top Skinny’s encouragement or anlyisis of a problem in the tosses that we throw, or the percentage and mathimatics of the game. I have been doing this dice control for a long time. Dom, Bob, Darrel, Arman, Billy and the other instructors and assistant are my mentors. All you posters encourage ME by your well written practice or live game posts.

So, I want to thank all of you that I even have not met in person. I practice better and get going on my practice sessions espiecially before we have a class. 2015 is ready to "KICK OFF" for our new year.

So, if you have not signed up yet for this class, get ready for the next classes. And keep posting because you are making me better along with all the other "GTC Types"

Can’t wait to see my older friends and meet the new ones. So, Good fortune to all of you in and out of the Casino’s.
And Practice-Practice-Practice !!

Nick@Night


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Posted by: MIDNIGHT on February 12, 2015, 12:20 am

What a great post and like you say as well as everyone else, practice does make perfect. I try to get at least 3 hours a week in. More in the nicer weather because my table is in my garage. Although it is heated, it still gets chilly.

Can’t wait to play next to you in a couple of weeks. Practice so we can try to out throw each other.

Midnight

Posted by: TommyC on February 12, 2015, 2:29 am

My new table should be ready any time, I have not practiced recently as I have in the past, but I will go forward with a vengeance when my tables arrives. See you soon, and yes Mr Finness I still practice my grip daily. lol

Posted by: Dr Crapology on February 12, 2015, 3:24 pm

Tommy, you had better continue to practice your grip or Finesse will kick your ***.

Just kidding . Hope to see your soon.

Doc and Rose

Posted by: SevenTimesSeven on February 12, 2015, 7:34 pm

"TommyC" wrote: …. See you soon, and yes Mr Finness I still practice my grip daily. lol

May I ask, TC, exactly what and how do you practice your grip? C or U grip?
And why your grip may be so not-consistent for you to practice so much?
Please enlighten us, as to exactly what your grip looks like.
Appreciate your answer. Thanks.

Posted by: TommyC on February 13, 2015, 3:43 pm

I assume you have not been through a tune up with Mr Finesse. He finally drove it through my thick head, and my familys head, that you can practice your grip sitting at a redlight, while eating breakfast, deer hunting, ( duck hunting and fishing is a little tough), waiting to pick up kids from school, you really can get some looks at some of the school activity’s, all you have to do is keep several sets of dice around and a pair in your pocket/purse. Your throw starts here if your grip is wrong all is wrong. C/U does not matter its your grip, and it needs to be perfect.

Posted by: TommyC on February 13, 2015, 3:54 pm

Mr Finesse has explained to me in his soft spoken, very low key, smiling, voice numerous times, how the mistakes I continue to make affect the outcome of the end result, sometimes in such a low tone that the whole room stops so they can hear each word. lol

Posted by: Mr Finesse on February 13, 2015, 8:05 pm

I love it Tommy.

Grip is where it all begins and ends. As I have said in class if the grip is not perfect the odds of having a good toss decrease tremendously. Every once in a while one will have a good toss or even a few in a row.

But-BUT- in the long run you will not be successful and most say the GTC does not work. those who practice grip do know better.

95 % of my practice is Grip.

When we start a refresher class what are the first few things I look at.
Set up
Squaring
Centering
Grip
Toss

Notice what is last and this is what most look at first.

Posted by: SevenTimesSeven on February 13, 2015, 8:17 pm

TC,

With due respect, you haven’t answered my questions.
All on this board would benefit from your take on the topic.
Can we hold our breath in anticipation?
Thanks in advance.

7×7

Posted by: Mr Finesse on February 13, 2015, 8:25 pm

C grip or U grip.
This is an individual thing.
Dom uses a High top edge C grip, I can not, I use a mid-point U grip. What is good for you? I don’t know but I can figure it out in a class or a Tune-up.

This is something that needs work and it is not easy to figure out.

If this does not help give me a call, I put my phone number in another post today.

Posted by: Bigdaddy-Revs on February 14, 2015, 6:21 pm

C grip or U grip.
This is an individual thing.
Dom uses a High top edge C grip, I can not, I use a mid-point U grip. What is good for you? I don’t know but I can figure it out in a class or a Tune-up.

This is something that needs work and it is not easy to figure out.

Finesse, this statement you made seems simple enough, but it literally made worlds of difference for me. After reading this and rereading my notes from my primer class, i realized that i was using more of a C grip when i should have been using more of a U grip, based on the critiques you gave me. Ive been focused on using a U grip more, and while its a small sample of about 800 rolls, my SRR has gone from 6.2 in 5000+ previous rolls to 7.1 in those 800 rolls (yes, i know i need a sample 5-7 times larger to get a more accurate idea of my SRR). What i have noticed, however, is that i double pitch MUCH less than before, and my dice are on axis more. In addition, my primary hits have gone up about 20%.

I cant wait for my refresher class in AC. Not only will i get to see everyone, but im fully confident that my throw will improve leaps and bounds again!

~C

Posted by: Mr Finesse on February 14, 2015, 6:48 pm

Music to me ears. See you in a few weeks.

Posted by: SevenTimesSeven on February 14, 2015, 9:49 pm

BC,

Good to see that this thread is yielding some benefits, for all to learn.
Thanks for posting.
Anyone else?

7×7

Posted by: Finisher on February 15, 2015, 4:14 am

KnickatNight I wish that you would post more . I think that you would add a lot to this forum in different ways . But that is up to you and I hope to get to roll with you some day . I came real close just after I took the class . But had to go eat when I saw you at a table .

Posted by: MIDNIGHT on February 15, 2015, 11:28 pm

I agree with Finisher. I would love to see you post more often. As far as shooting with Nick, he is the greatest lefty shooter I have ever seen. His grip and set is so quick and motionless. It’s beautiful. I shoot sr2 as a righty so I’ve stood next to him on many occasions and I just love watching him throw. It’s so pretty. Definitely worth trying to be at a table with him. Ok, enough steam blown up his butt by me. I don’t want his head to float away.

Midnight