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Just thought I would post a report on my three day trip to Reno. First outing since my tuneup and video in Vegas. I have been focusing on grip and release since then and thinking about all that NNF and BTK had to say along with help from Dom and many others. I recommend this for all who want to advance. My challenges boiled down to grip and follow through. I have really practiced and as Skinny just mentioned in a post, feeling the dice release along with Dice Pilot’s toothpick trick have really helped me to refocus. Now, I don’t really recommend Reno much. It’s kind of dying a slow death, but I have so many fond memories of gambling with my grandma, aunts and uncles that I go for nostalgia sake.
I am seeing the dice much more clearly and know much better what a good grip feels like. In the heat of battle my fingers can harden up and I see it right away in the toss. I am not seeing many double pitches with the hardway set but more cork screwing with the dice. This goes right back to the grip and my index finger. This can be where my fulcrum fails. I have long fingers and big hands but insist on the three finger grip. I really have to curl them up evenly and loosely. I have to strictly maintain a perfectly exaggerated "C" shape and allow the follow through to peel the dice from the grip along with acceleration. I had moments when the throw looked perfect and the results were telling. Many hardways and for me lots of sixes and eights. I played mostly three dollar tables using the Big Skinny and did well. When I say I did well I am comparing it to the many beatings I have taken. I am seeing progress but it is very slow and I am not surprised. I always have a great time and the guys know me well and I never get much heat where I play. I always hit the back wall 99.9 percent of time and tipping cures any protest where I play.
I am back to the practice table and know what I am looking for from the dice. I can’t emphasis enough that the tuneup and video really opened my eyes to how nuanced "the toss" is. Also, working with new dice. Skinny is right, as always, that you get a better feel for the release. I also really needed the mechanics of the grip and the role of the fulcrum. Thanks to all the coaches and the good will of the GTC instructors. When things are tough, I always think of Sandtrap and The Goddess and how they struggled to learn this. Goddess, you are still inspiring me in many ways. Doughboy


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Posted by: Skinny on January 9, 2015, 9:51 am

Doughboy,

Sounds like you are making good progress. Keep up the good work. It is a great journey and well worth the effort.

Posted by: Dr Crapology on January 9, 2015, 12:56 pm

Magnificent post. Glad you came out ahead in the game that we all love. Your post tells us so much that we all need to know. Everyone on this board–including all the instructional staff–can learn from what you posted. A must read.

Thank you for posting. Rose and Doc look forward to seeing you soon.

Posted by: HardNine on January 9, 2015, 4:38 pm

Thanks Doughboy. It’s really getting me the itch to be in AC in Feb vs. waiting for LV, though both is good!

Keep it up and thanks for YOUR inspiration.

Doc, thanks for your notes as well, very much appreciated.

Posted by: TommyC on January 9, 2015, 6:03 pm

😀 GOOD JOB Hope to see you soon.

Posted by: Mr Finesse on January 10, 2015, 12:48 pm

Doughboy I am glad that you are starting to understand what the instructors have been talking about all these years. I was upset that I could not be in Vegas for your tune-up but I know you received excellent advise.

The grip and the natural non release (fulcrum) with the dice rolling off of your finger tips is so important to achieve success in our toss.

The other important aspect of what we do is so many of our students think attending 1 class will lead them to the promised land and as you and many others know that it is not the case. We all need more than one class to become the best we can be. There is so much to our toss that the finer points can not even be mentioned in a primer class. We get into these aspects when students take multiple refresher classes, tune-ups, elite video analysis and eventually the advanced class. It takes time and a lot of practice and frustration for many students to understand what we are talking about at the 2nd level of instruction.

Lastly the instructors critique each other when we get together at a class. The day we set up is a great day when we(instructors) help each other, the room is all set up with 2 or 3 tables and all of the practice rigs and everyone is tossing the dice and having someone else watch them. Our own ongoing instruction, we need it also.

I really enjoyed reading this post, it was very enlightening to me and I hope many others.

This year I am totally dedicating my self to helping all of our students improve their skills, I no longer have to run back to the casino I am staying at to make sure my other have is ok. GTC will be my primary family from 2015 going forward, so remember if you have a question please ask me or any other instructor.

Posted by: Dr Crapology on January 10, 2015, 1:37 pm

Mr. Finesse, well said. Life golf pros we all need to take lessons from time to time.

Rose and Doc

Posted by: DoughBoy on January 11, 2015, 12:24 am

Thanks to all of you for your kind words. Mr. Finesse, I look forward to my next tuneup with you in Vegas. You were missed. It goes slow but steady for me. I’ve gone from hoping to get lucky to spending the time really seeing if the dice are right. This tells me what to do with my bankroll as well. With time, practice, and very intense focus, I am getting there. Happy New Year! Doughboy