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    Betting on the high seas

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    I just returned from a wonderful 12 night cruise from London through the Baltic Sea. Everything was wonderful, but the casino was unbelievably slow. There were many times that I was able to shoot by myself for 30-40 minutes, then a group would show up, go around the table once or twice, then it’d be all me again. I was able to get familiar with the crews and bosses and casino host, which was great for friendly chatter at rest times. It also let me practice with people watching as groups walked through and stopped to watch the game.

    Anyway, I quickly learned (on the first throw) that this cruise line only takes single odds. I said "oh" and pulled my odds down to single. I worked some come bets, then suddenly realized that I’d not fully processed what had happened. Hopefully I was right in changing my betting strategy to be place bets only except for my own line bet. My 5 counting saved a LOT of cash (once I stopped worrying about getting rated and making stupid bets during the 5 count). Was I thinking right about the betting strategy on single odds? I obviously had no other casino option!

    Looking forward to the AC class in September!

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    Posted by: RFink13 on July 16, 2014, 3:59 am

    The place bets have "built-in" odds of 5X on the 6/8 and 4X on the others. The reason I say that is assume you’re at a $1 table. Bet $1 on the line and roll a six, place $5 odds and viola you’re paid $7. Bet $1 on the line roll a 5, take $4 odds and you’re paid $7. It’s the same for the 4.

    The come bet has the 2:1 edge on the come out roll, other than that you’re better with a place bet on a single odd table.

    Just my opinion.

    RichInMich

    Posted by: CC Roller on July 17, 2014, 3:08 am

    Hi dH

    Yes you were right on that strategy . See past posts Re High Seas or Cruise Casinos. I have taken a number of cruises in the past and most are single odds and some do offer double.

    We took the same or similar cruise 3 years ago and agree that was near the top of all the cruises we have taken.

    I found the same thing as you did. Not many playing craps in Europe. (Must be the Euro!!!!!!!) he he

    Good shooting and cruising

    CC Roller

    Posted by: Dr Crapology on July 17, 2014, 1:47 pm

    We usually pass on the cruise casinos altogether. The BJ we have seen in the past really sucked—all 8 deck shoes with only 4 decks being dealt before the shuffle or a single deck game that paid 6-5 on a double deck. As you noted the odds were only 1 times odds. We tried come bets with "double dipping" with an additional place bet.but since the table were not real playable we only made one pass at the table and did not return.. Mentioned to the dealers that single odds really wasn’t very good and the snotty dealer said "then why don’t you do down the street." And here we were in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico. A few other carnival type poker games and some slots and VP that had bad pay schedules.

    There are so many other things to do on a cruise and we concentrated on that. Would we take another cruise? Yes but unless some things have changed in the casino we would stay out of the casino. To us a cruise is not a gambling destination of choice but a time to relax and see some of the world.

    Just a few comments from the peanut gallery.

    Rose and Doc

    Posted by: HardNine on July 17, 2014, 8:55 pm

    As I’ve seen in other posts and in reasoning for the need for the 5 count, there was a craps table and I just wanted to play and roll! Although my first attempts were feeble and I cheated the 5 count only to prove the need for the 5 count, my final visits were much better (one 23 roll hand) and gave me great and low cost practice in "casino" conditions. And I’ve now had a couple of 20’s rolls at home since returning even with different table conditions.

    Thanks to all, really looking forward to meeting some of you in AC. 10 weeks!

    Posted by: HardNine on July 17, 2014, 10:55 pm

    And the cheap players!!!!! Even the US folks who said they roll in AC didn’t give a single penny to the dealers, despite my intentionally loud "6 & 8 for the crew!"

    HardNine
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