You are correct that getting the so called "good 7’s" means you are on axis. My best bet is that one of the dice is over (under) rotating in relation to the other dice causing the old double pitch. Probably a grip problem. Make sure your grip is as perfect as you can get it–thumb and middle finger centered on the dice and the 3 fingers straight across the front of the dice.

Use the gripper in 2 ways—One, put the dice in the gripper and pick them up. Do this several times and get the feel of the grip being perfect. I know this is not as much fun as actually throwing the dice but you really can’t do this enough. If you played any athletics in high school the coach probably had you doing all sorts of drills—boring!!! But most important but never as much fun as a scrimmage. You get the idea.

Secondly, grip the dice as you would in the casino and then place them in the gripper. As the dice slide in the gripper, the fingers should touch the gripper at the same time. If one finger touches the dice before the other two fingers or one finger is not touching the gripper as they slide in, you are not straight across. You need to get your fingers level.

Also make sure you have a light grip–don’t hold the dice too tight.

Hope that will help. Hope others will post some ideas.

Alligator Rose and Doc

Keeping the three fingers straight across on your release is also important as it can give one die a little more rotation than the other. if it is giving the dice more than a little extra rotation you will see one die lagging or the dice traveling at different heights from one another.

Thanks a bunch! miss the class in Vegas already. lol

This problem is Grip related. Pat has given you excellent advice.