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Posted by: sevenout on November 5, 2013, 2:49 pm
Every time another one of these "nuggets" leaks out and people are surprised, I just shake my head. It was all right in front of them if they dared to look.
Posted by: Skinny on November 5, 2013, 5:47 pm
On June 15, 2009 he stated, "If you like your healthcare plan you will be able to keep your healthcare plan period. If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor period."
He repeated that type of statement more than 24 times while he was trying to "sell" Obamacare to the American public.
Yesterday, November 4, 2013, he tried to change the word "period" to "… if it hasn’t changed since the law’s passed" when he made a false claim with the following statement.
“If you had or have one of these plans before the Affordable Care Act came into law,” the president said, “and you really like that plan, what we said was, you could keep it… if it hasn’t changed since the law’s passed.”
No sir, that is NOT what you said!!!
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2806021806001/president-obama-rewrites-healthcare-promise/

Posted by: Skinny on November 5, 2013, 7:00 pm
The end result is to force us into a single payer system!!!
Obama could not get it passed by legislation, even with his democratic controlled congress. So Obamacare was designed to decimate private insurance companies.
Right now the only people impacted by Obamacare are those who have individual coverage because President Obama exempted the majority of those with group coverage until the end of 2014. The vast majority of people in the country are covered by some type of group plan and are not seeing changes to their plans yet. Right now only about 9 million people are seeing their plans cancelled or significantly altered with higher premiums and deductibles. But that is because they have individual coverage, not group plans that are exempt for one more year. Next year we will see it hit the rest of the marketplace and as Christopher Conover estimated, 129 million will not be able to keep their current coverage due to Obamacare once it is fully implemented at the end of 2014.
Over time more and more people will migrate to the healthcare insurance provided by the government and private insurance companies will go out of business. We will then have a single payer system in place and it will be too late to go back. This will not happen immediately. It will take place gradually and could happen as early as 2016 or slightly later than that.
Private insurance will fall apart under the new regulations of Obamacare. In order to provide coverage for pre-existing conditions and other mandatory benefits under Obamacare, insurance companies have to raise their rates and increase deductibles to the point where people will not buy their plans. People have no choice but to get insurance from the government. Then there would be a single payer system with private insurance effectively eliminated. Of course the government could not provide the coverage required to everyone for a reasonable rate. So once the bills start coming in they will have to find a way to pay for it all. Their solution will be all of the following: raise premiums, increase deductibles, raise taxes, borrow more money which will increase the national debt, and the big one… deny and/or delay coverage for the elderly and others for whom the government bureaucrats determine are too costly to provide medical care.
Read this carefully and remember it because I want everyone on this board to realize what is going to happen. The media will not tell you this until it is too late, just as they did not tell you Obama was deceitful when he said you could keep your healthcare plan and doctors. It was all predictable because it comes down to mathematics.
Posted by: ThomasH on November 5, 2013, 9:56 pm
Posted by: Skinny on November 9, 2013, 3:29 am
Having said all the above, I want everyone to realize, this is all by design. None of this is an accident. There is a grand plan in place here and the public is being duped into it. I am not a conspiracy theorist but I do understand insurance and I can see what is coming next, just as I understood what would happen when Obamacare was being debated.
Obama could not get it passed by legislation, even with his democratic controlled congress. So Obamacare was designed to decimate private insurance companies.
The end result is to force us into a single payer system!!!
Here is just one excerpt from O’Reilly’s talking points from yesterday, November 7, 2013.
So some companies are canceling the policies because they don’t comply with the new mandates. President Obama knew that would happen and he actually wants that to happen because it forces Americans into the Obamacare exchanges to get new policies.
Remember that the goal of President Obama and the Democratic Party is for the government to control the entire health care industry..
That’s called the single payer system!!!
It was eerie listening to O’Reilly repeat many of the things I wrote about. Fortunately I wrote my post 2 days before him so I can not be accused of plagiarism. Let me know if you have the same feeling when you hear him speak. You can listen to the talking points memo in its entirety by watching the video in the following link:
Here is the written transcript, but it leaves out part of what can be seen in the video above.
"The latest claim from the White House is that all the chaos is being caused by health insurance companies. But according to the Washington Post, ‘The administration’s effort to pin the blame on insurance companies is a classic case of misdirection.’ So what is the truth? If you are a health insurance company, you are now required to offer a bunch of services, such as maternity and newborn care to 90-year-olds. So some companies are canceling the policies because they don’t comply with the new mandates. President Obama knew that would happen and he actually wants that to happen because it forces Americans into the Obamacare exchanges to get new policies. Remember that the goal of President Obama and the Democratic Party is for the government to control the entire health care industry. But the President will never tell us any of that and most Americans are finally wising up to the quasi-socialistic agenda of the Democratic Party. My analysis is not ideological – in fact, I think some right-wing ideologues are actually helping President Obama by attacking him personally. We don’t do that here and that has frustrated some Factor viewers. But we have been effective in dismantling the Obamacare excuse-making machine. For example, rather than concentrate on the word ‘lie,’ which polarizes, we have presented fact after fact showing that the new law is chaotic, to say the least. The way to overturn the progressive movement in America is to vote the rascals out, and in order to do that you have to defeat the progressives with facts."
Posted by: sevenout on November 11, 2013, 6:19 am
http://www.singlepayeraction.org/2009/0 … -suicidal/
Kind of obvious what the end game was.
Posted by: Skinny on November 11, 2013, 3:37 pm
Posted by: NofieldFive on November 12, 2013, 12:29 am
NFF
Posted by: Skinny on December 21, 2013, 9:10 am
On a serious note, I think it is important for everyone to understand and take to heart what the good doctor is saying. Here are some excerpts from the article to pique your curiosity.
But it’s not just individuals seeing their medical care turned upside down. The insurance providers, the backbone of the system, are being utterly transformed. They are rapidly becoming mere extensions of the federal government.
Three years ago I predicted that Obamacare would turn insurers into the lapdog equivalent of utility companies. I undershot. They are being treated as wholly owned subsidiaries.
The federal government now runs the insurance market, dictating deadlines, procedures, rates, risk assessments and coverage requirements.