In the regular class we do not usually show a video of the perfect shot. However in the elite video you will get to see your shot both before and after your instruction–mostly in slow motion. The Elite Video in a most impressive and useful tool. If you haven’t taken one, sign up for an Elite Video lessons as soon as possible since they are very popular and sell out quick.

Alligator Rose and Doc

BTK and NFF will also give you a thumb drive to take home. It has the software and the video of yourself on it so you can watch it over and over and over again. It’s pretty cool because you can speed it up, slow it down, reverse it. You get a really good look at your shot in it. Highly recommended.

Michael

Yes, you can see I already had the Video class.
And no, your remind me of answers from politicians.
Why? .. the question was not answered. LOL.
With due respect, senators, of cource. Oh, well.

I did not think the Doc was trying to evade your question. I believe he answered the question he thought you asked.

I guess I don’t understand the question either. Because I also thought you were asking for a video of the perfect throw to be shown in the class.

So what is your question?

Skinny I think it depends on how you read it . I thought the answer would be hopefully . That the video would show a better throw then his did . But I don’t read into things vary good these days I guess it comes with age . 😀 😀
Perfect or not it is the result that counts . My best looking throws have ended in Bad results at times .O how many times I thought that looks great and it turns into a 7 . 🙁 🙁
I still look back when I took the class and remember the instructors saying that was a good 7 . ( 5-2 or 4-3 ) Thinking 7 is BAD period no matter how you look at it .
I played golf one time with 2 friends . They told me that my shoot looked good and went straight. It was just that I had to hit the ball twice to reach were their had landed . One time they said to just aim toward their ball that was about 150 yds away to catch up which I did . My ball hit one of theirs and we all had a good laugh. That was the only time I have played golf . I know that is not my sport .
Good Rolling. 😀 😀

"SevenTimesSeven" wrote: At some point in the class, are we yet looking into a slo-mo video of the
dice landing, hitting the wall and settling down?
Isn’t this the ultimate objective of the throw,
— not a helter-skelter, energetic, random splash of a show like mine? LOL

Thanks again for the answers to what was percieved as the question.

The question was meant to ask whether there are any plans for the
video class to offer a focused slow motion video view of
the student’s dice landing at the end of the throw,
bouncing to the wall,
coming off the wall and
settling on the felt.

Thanks again to you guys for your answers.

7X7,

Depending on who is shooting and how they set up, there are times that you can clearly see what the dice are doing after they land from the rear camera view.

We never concentrate on that aspect of the shot since after you have done your setup, grip, backswing and release you have done everything that you can possibly do to affect the shot. If you have done everything properly and the dice go straight to the back wall you have done your job to decrease the random components that the felt and wall add to the shot. There are times that you will see exactly what you want to see and other times that the dice go crazy for whatever reason.

We concentrate on the things that the shooter can do to reduce that randomness. Looking at what the back wall does to screw with the shot IMO isn’t productive since there are only two things that the shooter can do to affect the shot other than having the proper setup, backswing and release. Those two things are changing the entry angle of the dice hitting the table ( by changing the angle in which the dice are released and distance that they are tossed ) and making the dice land softer so that there is less energy to be dissipated after the dice land.

I would advise not spending too much time and energy on looking at this since #1 What can you do after you have done your best to make a good shot? #2 Does your medical insurance have good psychiatric coverage since this will drive you crazy because the pyramids do their job regularly, that’s why the casino puts them there and lets you shoot.

Always remember that you don’t have to and realistically can’t control every shot. There will always be a big random component in this endeavor as there is in all casino games and in all of the advantage plays people use to beat those games, mathematicians refer to it as variance. I don’t remember the exact math or exact numbers but if you throw an controlled shot and avoid the 7 with that controlled shot once every 41-42 shots you will have an edge on the 6/8 place bets. That’s a simple statement and a simple concept but it"s true.

Do what you can to toss correctly, having the dice rotate and land together and go straight to the back wall and be happy when you accomplish it knowing all the while that after you do all of those things that the pyramids are waiting to do their job and screw the whole thing up.

BTK

BTK,
Thanks for the very satisfacory answer.
So my take from it is that of the four stages,
(1) the student’s dice landing at the end of the throw,
(2) bouncing to the wall,
(3) coming off the wall and
(4) settling on the felt
we must control the first two and hope for the best in the last two.
The first two are the result of our practiced throw so we can judge
our throw from this result, a slo-mo video of which would be desirable.
Thanks,
7×7

As Billy said, the only time you can be 100% perfect is in the setup, grip, and release. After that all forces of nature and of course the table take over. So what we try to give me in the video elite is all the things you are doing wrong when you have control over the dice… are they releasing straight, and by seeing the release in the air we will know if your grip is the problem.

IMHO, it is the best tool we have to give the experienced thrower a more advanced look at his shot

Dominator

Dom,

Thanks for your answer.
I take it to mean we control stage (1) result,
as the student’s dice is about to hit the table-top’s felt,
their squareness. approach angle and softness,
and we can watch for this,
while we cannot control the last three stages.
Thanks to you all for the answers.
Hope other learners on this board will find this clarification helpful.

7×7

You got it and I do think it was a GREAT question for others!

Dom