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Questions about optimal trajectory

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Here’s something I’ve noticed about myself. When I’m not concerned about the height of the 45 and concentrate more on the grip, delivery, and roll off. I have better rolls. On my great rolls the dice come in flat and I hear that noise and they die within 3-5 inches from one another. I’m dropping them in with that forward motion. My trouble comes either when I’m not level upon release or I toss them to hard because I trying to force the number to come. I have found that if I go to high up the good numbers don’t show. Just trash. How high is to high? How low is to low?


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Posted by: Mr Finesse on July 21, 2013, 3:46 pm

Eagle Eye,

Remember this, practice is practice, work on different things during practice sessions and only one thing at a time. If you are working on grip just work on your grip, if you are working on hand position work on hand position, if you are working on set up work on set up, do not mix and intertwine them.

When you are having a casino session now you are throwing the dice to have extended or longer rolls. Here you are putting everything together and trying to be a player.

Keep these aspects seperate and keep them simple. KISS!!!!!!!!

You have taken one class, this past April you will not become an elite shooter in 3 short months and after only one class. Keep looking for improvement from your practice and think about when you are going to seek additional instruction down the road. These steps will help you become a good shooter down the road.

Thanks for asking questions and we will keep trying to answer them here.

Upon review I see I did not answer your question about trajectory. Do not worry about trajectory at this time, if all aspectects of your toss are correct the trajectory will take care of itself.

If your grip is correct, not to tight and fingers straight and your toss is not to fast, it has the correct tempo the dice will come out of your hand with centrigual force and the trajectory will be correct. If the grip is to tight or the toss is to fast the dice will be to low.

I hope this helps.

Lastly remember to work on your GRIP.

Posted by: Eagle Eye on July 21, 2013, 6:18 pm

Thank you. I didn’t understand why one day I had a great roll and the next day not so good. I have gotten extremely accurate with the dice. I think I probably could hit a tic off of a fly’s rear end from 7 to 8 feet with the dice. 😯 Thanks to many for the bowl practice tip. I will work harder on the things you said. Will continue my quest and work that much harder on everything mentioned above. Looking forward to taking another class next year. πŸ™‚

Posted by: brothelman on July 22, 2013, 6:06 am

quick test for you and all glue a pair of dice together and see how true you can make them fly.

A great shoot can make them fly with out any wobble.

A good shoot has limited wobble some of the times a random shot has wobble all the time.

Posted by: Kool Kenneth on July 23, 2013, 2:03 pm

Thanks brothelman for the info about getting the dice together. I have a problem with keeping the dice closer together. Sometimes ok other times not ok. The advice about taking another class is good info need more coaching. Good Post thanks

Posted by: Striker on July 23, 2013, 2:40 pm

This is something I have been struggling with myself. According to my calculations, the height of the dice should not be greater than 1.5 feet from the table surface. This is being seven feet from the wall.

Posted by: Dominator on July 24, 2013, 10:35 pm

The 45 degree angle will be almost a natural toss. Also, this is a starting point, on some tables you will need to throw the dice higher and on others you will need to throw lower. As Mr Finesse said, don’t worry about this at this stage in your development.

The real point is not to "aim" to your target. When you aim, your shoot will be too low. You want to think about throwing "to" your target. Think of a baseball pitcher, if he starts aiming his throw he will not be able to throw a strike. he must throw hard at the catcher’s mitt and hear that smack of the ball. The same with us, we want to land those dice on our spot flat and hear a "smack" on the table.

Dominator

Posted by: Eagle Eye on October 24, 2013, 5:13 am

Thank you Dom ❗

Posted by: Finisher on October 27, 2013, 6:15 am

How did the glued dice work out. The first time I threw a set I could not believe how they went .
Good Rolling. πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

Posted by: Eagle Eye on November 2, 2013, 2:51 pm

It works

Posted by: Finisher on November 2, 2013, 5:28 pm

EagleEye Did you take a look at the 45 degree post that I brought back up it is visual ?
What I do if I have never thrown on table I will just take a few min. to see how the dice are re-acting to throws . You need to see how the other players are throwing too .
I say this because I have seen them go off the table lots just because of the way others throw . One time I counted 15 times they went off the table before they got to me. I still rolled because I realized I could keep them on the table. I like the old saying look before you leap.
Good Rolling. πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€