Carl

In my practice sessions, my dice both hit the table and then make a rather sharp turn to the left. I throw form SL and I’m right handed. What am I doing wrong?

Doc Holliday responds

Carl,

This is a common problem early in a precision dice tosser’s career. What is happening is the dice are landing on their right edges and then the bounce forces them to the left.

Look at your set-up when you pick the dice up. Are they canted a bit to the right before you toss? If so set them down and adjust your wrist position to the left a little, pick them up and check to see that you have eliminated the cant.

If instead, you are square to the back wall and to the top of the table before your toss then you need to watch closely (Or better yet have some one else watch you from the end of the table) to see if you are doing something with your hand at your release that is allowing the dice to come off at a diagonal position position. If so, then a good practice technique is to super glue two dice together (I like to do it in the hardways set as positive reinforcement) and toss these until you can deliver them without any wobble. Then go back to your individual dice and see if it isn’t corrected.

Is there an instructor or other student in your area that could observe you? If not, even a helpful family can sometimes see things you can’t. I hope this helps.

Doc Holliday

Dominator responds

What the Doctor has said is everything you should be looking at Carl. I can tell you that sometimes I have a tendency to turn my wrist at the time of release. I remember a time in Vegas during a nice roll of mine that I had to have Billy the Kid and Street Dog remind me. Billy was next to me keeping me focused and Street Dog was at table end giving me signs )))))

Doc Holiday’s point of having someone watch you would be a big help. Tell them what the "perfect pitch" should look like and let them tell you what they see.

Dominator

fscobe responds

Here’s the good news. BOTH dice are doing the same thing. That means you have an equal amount of pressure on them. Now, all you have to do is get them to go straight. That can be a wrist thing. The advice you have gotten from Doc and Dom (a new GTC tag-team) should be tried first.

Carl responds

I did notice that I was bringing the dice back and slightly curving my wrist. I think I might have brought the dice too far back. So I tried to be conscious of not bringing my arm back and darn if it didn’t work. My next pratice sessions all had the dice landing straight near the back wall, no curves at all.

Mr Finesse responds

The majority of us who practice for any length of time rarely have anyone watching us or have video equipment available to see what we have done wrong with our take away and delivery, all we see is the end result. Some are capable of seeing the end result and figuring out what caused the problem and more only flounder and keep making the same mistake over and over again.

Carl has called on the members here to help him figure out what he is doing wrong and everyone needs to start asking question so the instructors and members can help each other. This is where the power of the CRAPS CLUB and GOLDEN TOUCH CRAPS will play a very important role in helping everyone achieve success

Carl your dice are making a turn when they hit the table and you have received some very valuable info to help you correct the problem. Now lets get to the real start of your take away and delivery.

1) make sure when you have the dice in your hands and you are ready to deliver the dice that you have a pause before you start you back swing. But remember to make sure your dice are square to the back wall and that they are square to the table top also.

2) When you start your take away make sure you are not bringing you hand back across your body on an angle, No inside out or outside in back swing make sure it is straight back and on the slow side. It is easier to bring your arm back on an angle so the straight back movement takes work and practice.

3) The actual delivery must also be straight towards the back wall with the hand releasing the dice and fingers pointing towards the wall.

I set up a mirror so I can watch my self when I deliver the dice, I put it at the end and overlooking my practice rig. It is only there when I am working on my delivery to make sure it is square.

If you have any other question ask and lets see if this help out. I think once you get this down you will actually feel when it is just right. I remember when I played alot of golf you knew when you hit it perfect, you could feel it in the swing and your shot had that distinctive click at impact. This will happen with your delivery of the dice, you will get to the point and know when it is a good one or a bad one as soon as it leaves you hand.

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