From an earlier response from Dom on the subject of Practice:

"I have about 12,000 tosses recorded. As a math guy, I will tell everyone that you need at least 5000 tosses to even begin to figure your SRR, anything less, just isn’t worth it. That is not to say that looking at your SRR during a sheet of 150 tosses doesn’t help you stay focused, but the statistics aren’t there for any reasonable calculations. "

Here’s my question:

Once you have, say, 3600 (or 5k, whatever) rolls documented in practice, does it make sense to start a "rolling" SRR where you start to drop the earlier rolls from the calculations? RE: I roll 120 tonight, and drop the first 120 that I recorded.

The logic being that one’s skill should improve and this would give a more accurate, current SRR.

Or, does it matter at all?

Thanks again!

DJ

Dominator responds

Hi DJ,

It makes perfect sense to drop lets say the first 2000 tosses, I did. I still have those sheets, BTW )))

I know its difficult, but everyone must look at this dice odyssey as a long wondering travel marked by many changes in your path. Like a great ball player who changes his stance ever now and then, you will find a tweak here and there that will give you great results for a short period of time. Coming to a refresher class at GTC, an instructor might give you a pointer that increases your SRR. The thing about SRR in my mind is this, that you need a statistical Db to to claim any SRR.

Now on an individual day of practicing, figuring your SRR for those 200 tosses isn’t bad for your confidence if it is high! When I had a bad day at practice, I knew it, I didn’t have to figure my SRR for that sheet of tosses and I didn’t! I would, after about an hour, figure it in my running total of all my practice tosses.

As in building your BR, you want little wins or little bits of encouragement to build your confidence.

Dominator

fscobe responds

The SRR is only a tool to build confidence in your performance skills. It is theoretically possible to have an SRR of 1:6 (seemingly random) and HAMMER the casinos. You just need a six and an eight coming up the same amount of time as the 7 and you’ve got the casino by the yaba-dabas! So, I think the emphasis on SRR is good in the beginning, to establish that you are indeed avoiding the 7, but as time goes on and you start to get better and better, you will be looking to hit certain numbers as well and not just avoid the 7. We don’t want the numbers to fill in equally for the missing 7s; we want an unequal distribution of hits. Make sense?

DGHenley responds

A agree with Frank and Dom here. I have an Excel spreadsheet in my laptop that I use to record rolls with in real time. While developing my technique I recorded every practice session. I made notes as to finger placement, stance, arm follow through, etc. This allowed me to look for technique tweaks that worked or did not work for me and refer back to them for the fix. Once the SRR climbed above 8 on a regular basis I stopped recording every practice session.

Now if I have a lot of time during a practice session I may break out the laptop and take a look at the results. But the result I am looking for is not just the SRR number. I am looking at the dice roll result distribution. I am specifically looking for percentages of primary hits, off axis sevens, and signature numbers for each dice set used. This is what Frank is saying. We want to look much deeper than SRR.

Daryl

Mr Finesse responds

We need a ruler or measuring stick so we can see if we have gone from point A to point B. The measuring stick we have when throwing the dice is our SRR. We can track and see improvement or trends to the positive and negative. The adjustment we try to make will either help or hinder our improvement. Keeping these records and referring back to them help us improve.

Like Dom and many others I have over 20000 throws recorded, do I recorded throws now—only when I try something new or experiment, I want to see what happens to the dice. This tells me to continue with this experiment of to just move on and go back to basics.

The recorded throws are a vast source of knowledge, the notes written on them help when I see something happening with my dice. I go looking at my sheets, I have them indexed and numbered to help me find problems with what I am doing today.

Remember SRR is just another tool on your journey to success

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