You know, I always say to trust the GTC throw and what I mean is that the grip and throw that we teach does it all.

So, most people try to throw with a "soft touch" instead of just throwing the dice, trusting the grip, and getting it to the back wall. It is amazing that with a little more energy on the dice and a good target placement the dice will get to the back wall and bounce off and stop dead.

So never try to really soften the throw, this will create more problems. Always practice to become a perfect target shooter and get the dice to the wall with energy

Dominator

PS the 2 -4 inches that you are talking about will change depending on the table

Dom is right on about trusting the throw and not trying to manage your throw too much.

When you try to throw "soft" you sometime get less rotation on the dice or lower the arc and that can cause them to hit with too much energy off the back wall. So when you trust your throw and follow thru to the target closer to the back wall you are probably getting a better release. The dice may be getting a better reaction off the fingers, perhaps a bit more backspin or a better backspin creating a better braking reaction on impact with the table. You may also have a better arc coming in steeper to get the dice further down the table that causes them to dissipate their energy better upon impact.

So follow Dom’s advice and don’t over think the throw.

Brothelman,

I don’t think I ever saw a description of it, so what kind of practice set-up do you have?
When you talk about the "4 inches away from the back wall", is it on a practice table? A half table with curved back wall? Or GTC receiving station?

I have a nine foot table open in one end so you can shoot from either side and practice for either 12 foot tables or 14 foot tables.

the base of my table is 3 pieces of mdf lambed together and I have just a sheet on it so if you do not throw the dice right they bounce huge!

but I also have a little 12inch by 12 inch receiving station that I sit on the table to get a more realistic true table bounce when I want to see how I am doing.

When I sit the 12 by 12 on the table the goal is to keep the dice in it with out them hitting the side walls, or bouncing out of it. yes there are pyramids on the 12 by 12.

Sounds like a great set-up!
I feel like my own set-up needs some updating and I would love to take a look at yours, if possible. I’ll be in Vegas in a week and can hardly wait. I also feel that the newly graduated would benefit from seeing pictures of it, especially the 9 foot table. What a great idea for those who lack the space for the whole 12 foot or 14 foot table!! Did you build them yourself?
My own set-up is a GTC throwing and receiving rig; there are pictures of it on the site and prices as well.

"Agame" wrote: Sounds like a great set-up!
I feel like my own set-up needs some updating and I would love to take a look at yours, if possible. I’ll be in Vegas in a week and can hardly wait. I also feel that the newly graduated would benefit from seeing pictures of it, especially the 9 foot table. What a great idea for those who lack the space for the whole 12 foot or 14 foot table!! Did you build them yourself?
My own set-up is a GTC throwing and receiving rig; there are pictures of it on the site and prices as well.

Please excuse the little selling here, but what Tom has is the same idea of our half table. It is made with the idea for those that want the feel and reaction of the dice of a full table but don’t have the room or the funds to buy one.

Our half table has the same felt on it that our full table has. Also where the dice are going to land the thickness is 1.5 inches … just like the thickness of a casino crap table. But the rest of the table is 3/4 inch to cut down on the wait.

Like Tom’s idea, with the use of the throwing station you can set it up for a 12 foot or 14 foot length and for left or right.

Dominator

Bman

I have had the same problem, the better my throw looks the shorter my rolls are.

For a couple months now that seems to be the case. I still have some decent rolls,
thursday i had a 28 and Friday a real nice 32 with 6 pass line winners, but if you take those
out i guess i have a srr of 3….

It also seems i am either a 3 or less or good roll. Most of the 7’s are 3/4 4/3 , even with
3-v i will get the 3/4/ 4/3
I guess it is pretty hard to throw every toss perfectly, you cant have a hardways on every
toss, but the 4/3 3/4 a tough penalty for being close. sorta like a real good shot in bowling
and leave a 10 pin, and then miss the pin….very costly.

Remember what the little kid said when he was trying to throw the ball up to hit it, and he kept
missing over and over… his friend said your not a very good hitter, but the kid replied
no, but i am a hell of a pitcher.
Same here, i am one hell of a 3/4 4/3 shooter

gman

The point that Dom say’s continually" Trust the GTC throw and Grip" is what this all about. I add in class "Just let the dice go, do not hold back or be timid"

Sometimes I say, let the f—— dice fly. You all know what I mean. sorry!!!!!

In my own play I have found that I now prefer throwing from SL1&1/2 as opposed to SL1 or I am not opposed from throwing from SL2. I can just let the dice go just like I am always saying in class.

Last week in Tunica I was playing on a 14 ft table and kind of liked it from SL1, the added distance was not any problem. I just increased my backswing a little and I was reaching the table end without any effort at all.

So remember, just let the dice go!!!!