There are various ways, I’m sure you are going to see them here.
Easiest is just putting a buck on top of your pass line bet and flipping them the winning buck when you hit the point. That way, you are still in control of your investing dollar and it continues to give as long as you hit your points. When I am up, I will then add 2 bucks to the odds bet and increase the tips.
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Several variations for making dealer bets and tokes. Griz is right. A dollar on top of your pass-line bet is easiest.

As the roll progresses, I’ll start making additional dealer bets on the box numbers.

A few years ago, a boxman informed me that I couldn’t control bets made for the dealer. So I stopped declaring the pass-line dollar as a dealer bet.

Turned out the boxman was incorrect. But rather than debating the matter, I now just make the bet and give the dealers the win.

The dealers figure it out soon enough anyway…

This is also a great way to back up your pass-line bet with a few more dollars in odds.

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"The Griz" wrote: There are various ways, I’m sure you are going to see them here.
Easiest is just putting a buck on top of your pass line bet and flipping them the winning buck when you hit the point. That way, you are still in control of your investing dollar and it continues to give as long as you hit your points. When I am up, I will then add 2 bucks to the odds bet and increase the tips.
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"The Griz" wrote:
Easiest is just putting a buck on top of your pass line bet and flipping them the winning buck when you hit the point. That way, you are still in control of your investing dollar and it continues to give as long as you hit your points.
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I’m with Griz and Timmer. Buck on the pass line, flip them the win.

Declaring "in-control" seems to confuse many dealers. You’ll need to do it if you do place bet tips though

I usually places a bet next to mine on The pass line when I am doing well I take odds for the dealer.

Some times I make a "two way" hard ways bet. (I know the HW is not recommended but I have a weakness for it 😀 )

I almost forgot…. In AC a while back I saw a guy tip in a very interesting way. He would slide the dealer a $5 chip and then tell the dealer to place $1 on each of any five Place numbers.

I only saw this that one time

Something to consider

In AC, you can place $1 on the box numbers 5,6,8,9, and the dealers get paid 2 to 1.
On the 4 and 10 I believe they still only get 2 to 1.
You can also say you control the bets.

Another way of tipping on your pass line, is to place $1 on top of your pass line bet, and another $1 next to it. When you get paid, you slide the $1 to the right with its payout to the dealer, then slide the $1 paid on the top of your bet to the right. Your initial outlay is $2, but from there on out, it doesn’t cost you anything. The dealers get more, but it doesn’t cost you more. Dom demonstrates this during class.

Goddess

At our classes we have learned to use the tip as one of our tools to help accomplish our goals. At times, proper tipping can be a very powerful tool.
In the new AC, where many times the box man is eliminated altogether and the pit boss has increased duties, the dealers working the table have increased power.
The tipping tool has increased importance.
Although there is rarely any heat in AC, there are some times when you may encounter some. A bet for the dealers is a hedge against some pit interference.

Also, betting for the dealers, gets them into the game. Try it and observe. Make some bets for them, get on a good roll, and see how they pay attention. You get the dice back quickly, sometimes they are even set for you! This helps tremendously with your rhythm. They will prevent a new arrival at the table from bothering you and usher him to a different part of the table. They will remind you of odds, and missed bets that are different from the way you usually play. They are careful on your payoffs to be correct. And when you call out a bet, you can be sure it will be booked.

Last week, in the heat of the moment after hitting a point and establishing a new point. The dice were brought back to me quickly and in the hardway set. I picked them up and let them fly without putting down odds. I hit the number. I looked down, saw the mistake, looked up and the dealer said to the boxman. "He forgot his odds", he usually takes the max". without hesitation the boxman said "yes" and they paid me for the odds as if they were there.

This brings up another point. I call it "making the table your own". I try to go to the same table, at the same times so that I get the same table crew. I get to know them. And more importantly, they get to know me. My style. My bets. My stories. I also make a point of knowing something about them which you can pick up in conversation. If the table crew knows your tendencies they will help you in a time of need if at all possible. I always make the point of reminding them in some way that "we" are on the same side, and the big bad casinos are on the other side.
All of this goes on seamlessly at the tables when I play. There is so much to this. But these are my basics.
TM

So just to finish up. It is not only how to tip that is important. But why you tip is important too!

A $1 bet on top of your pass line bet is by far the best —as mentioned in most of the prior posts. As you get into a good roll you can add a dollar to a come bet. If you have a dollar on every come number the dealers gets paid with each roll–assuming no craps numbers. If the roll gets really good try this. If the pass line bet is a 4 ot 10 place a second $1 chip on top of your odds. The dealer gets paid $3—$1 for the pass line bet and $2 for the odds bet. If the point if a 5 or 9 place an additional $2 top top of your odds and the dealer gets paid $4. If the point is a 6 or 8 you can place a $5 chip on top of your odds bet. From the extra $6 won on a win with this extra $5 give the dealer the $1 on top of the pass line bet and the extra $1 from the extra $5 on the odds bet and keep the extra $5 win. The dealer gets $2.

This is simply a way to really get the dealer in the game once you have a long roll going. In our tipping the dealer never wins our money–only the win on our money so that we can bet the original dealer bet again.

Doc and Alligator Rose

$1 on top of pass line bet. I flip them the first win. After the second win I will ask if they want to drop it or let it ride on the line again. I still have $1 capped on my line bet, but most dealers like the action (and the payoff) so they like to be on the line also.

Still only costs me the original $1. The win pays for the next bet.

I’ve started tipping this way at BJ a & SP21. If I get on a good winning streak the dealers can make much more than the tradional way of tipping in those games.

Great idea I will be doing that next time at casinos .
Good Rolling.

Add I have been putting out a dollar for dealers on my roll and adding to max on every hit I get on place bets . This works good but like the idea to start with one on my pass line bet then if win move it over for dealers. They really like those pass line bets .
Good Rolling. 😀 😀

OK, here is the way I tip …..

I don’t say, "I am in control" of any bet …. I don’t want to have any more attention given to me. You don’t say that while giving a waiter or waitress a tip, why do it in a casino? Just my opinion on that.

I look at tipping as part of just doing business … my business in the casinos, and just a cost of doing business. So I put a $1 on top on my bet and a $1 next to my bet on the pass line. I don’t have to say anything, the dealers know that $1 on the pass line is theirs. So lets just stop there for a second. I now throw a comeout out 7 for the winner. lets say my passline bet is $10. The dealer will pay my pass line bet with the $1 on top … $11 dollars, and will pay the $1 bet for themselves, and will almost always say, "Thanks for the bet". I know take the additional dollar from my $11 winner and put it on the passline again for the dealers. So my total investment in dealer’s tips is $2 … the initial $1 on top of my bet and the initial $1 I put on the line. I can throw 10 comeout winners and my investment is still only $2. That is for those of you that are playing with a smaller BR.

Now for me, on this dealer bet, I will always take odds for the dealers, always. Again I say just a cost of doing business.

Now the George part. I don’t only want to make a dealer bet just when I am shooting. I want the dealers to know that they will always be in the game in with me. So on random rollers, when they have gone past the 5-count, and if during the random roller’s turn with the dice, if I have a passline bet I will bet $1 on the line for the dealers. So whenever I have a passline bet for myself, I always have a passline bet for the dealers. I usually won’t take odds for them initially, but if I am lucky enough to be at a table when the random roller goes on a tear and I have made some good money, I will begin to give the dealers odds on their bet.

Now I know that I have been called a big tipper, and I probably am, but at a dinner that might take 2 to 3 hours, the wait person will get at least a $20 tip from me, so I look at it and think that two hours at the craps table is worth the goodwill and the $20.

Tipping the dealers has always been an important part of what we do and teach, and my way of tipping works very well for me

Dominator

I always have a $1 tip on top of my pass line bet because I have been known to throw several 7’s and/or yo’s on my come outs.

Several times I have had dealers who don’t know me ask what the $1 is for, and I respond "Dealers on the line," which always gets a loud thank you. If I am on a long roll, I will add a $1 place bet on the 6 and/or 8 if they are not my point, since I also throw them a lot.

We have been doing this since day one at our regular casino, which we frequent 1-2 times a month. Although we are not large bettors, we do average a lot of time, and I am certain our history with the dealers contributes to their demonstrating interest in our health, both now with Sandtrap, and also when I had my hip replacement. Several of our regular dealers and pit bosses actually go to get us chairs, and return them for us.

Tipping is the best way to get the dealers on your side. I have also had a dealer tell the pit boss if I forgot odds, and they pay me.

Goddess

I can attest to the effect that the morning crew of Goddess, Sandtrap and the Raging Baritone bring to their regular casino. Although I have had the good fortune to play on occasion with them, it is very infrequent as my schedule does not allow it. However, I do get there in the early AM sometimes and the regular casino morning crew is there. After hello, inevitably the conversation will turn to the GTC morning crew. I can tell you that they are very well liked. It is great for me, as I get the benefit of all the good will they have created in the past. Goddess, ST, and RB have cultivated a great environment at that casino, at that time. I am careful to continue the tradition of tipping that they started. I put 1 on top of my pass line bet. Often I put another 1 separately on the pass line. I call this the generator. If I hit a come out 7 or eleven. I get paid and give 2 to the dealers. If I establish a point and the roll is going good, I might put odds on the pass line bet for the dealers. This really generates superb attention to my action and my roll by the dealers.
I also, many years ago, saw a guy place a 1 on his come bet which was a 25 bet. So he puts up 26. When he establishes the point, he then puts up his full odds and a 5 in odds for the dealers. They loved it.
I have done this on some occasions, especially when I am on a hot roll, and it goes over real well. Also, no one else does it that I see playing, so it really distinguishes you to the dealers and makes them attentive to the point that you get the dice back quickly and helps to keep you in rhythm.

One other observation, I have generally found that it is to our advantage to play with the early morning shift, for some obvious reasons, but also because the table crews are more focused, less pressured and generally provide a quicker game.

GameDay makes a good point… What you do and how you act at the tables also affects all other GTC’rs. Be a good George, tip the crew and hit the back wall and… Have fun! (Thx for THAT tip Bman!!)

this is all rich information guys, I appreciate all the feedback. thanks.

If you put that one dollar on top of your pass line bet you can add more odds which you get . So you decide which is better. I like the idea even tho I dont take full odds .But for those that do it seems like a no brainier. Also adding odds to dealers bet seems to get them into the game more. I like adding it with each place bet win and build it to max. Then start building my bet to max. It all depends on your BR.
Good Rolling. 😀 😀

ok, let me see if I can understand this correctly.

say on a 10x’s odds table ( or whatever is most common in vegas)

passline bet is 5. $1 tip on top, so that’s $6 on the pass line. let’s say a 8 rolls as the hit point. the odds I lay on that passline will be $60? is that correct?

not that I’m at the level to bet the fullest odds yet, but just to get an idea of what we’re doing. thanks.

let me know if my understanding is correct.

Your understanding is correct

Dominator

Yes, based on 10X’s odds you are correct. A $6 Place bet allows you to back it up with $60. $7 allows $70 and so on.

Now you get it . You would only be able to bet 50.00 odds if you did not add that one dollar. So what you do with that win is up to you but I just take one dollar and replace the line bet for dealers and the rest goes in the rack. Which can add up if you are playing max.
Do the math not a bad investment if you want to keep the dealers in the game .
Good Rolling. 😀 😀

Finisher is correct. That extra $1 is a great way for you to increase your odds wager which is the best wager the casino offers in the game of craps. All along you look like a "George" because you are making a bet for the dealers which they greatly appreciate. At the same time you give yourself the best opportunity to win at the best odds possible.

so bet is $5, $1 on top that’s $6. hit point is "8". lay odds of $60. "8" hit’s again. pay out is 6:5 I think , so that’s $72. $60 for me, and give the crew $12 . am I doing the math right?

if the hit point was " 4", I can lay odds of $60 again right? and that pays out 2:1, right? the win would be $120. $100 for me, and then give the crew $20. is that how it works?

i think i’m starting to get it.

Yes, you could do it like that, or you could keep the $12 in your rack. What ever makes you happy. Remember, the extra dollar on your flat bet gives you the opportunity to get more odds on the table with no house advantage.

You can Place a $6 bet for yourself and a $1 Place bet alongside of it for the crew. When the point is made they are going to pay both at even money. The crew takes their $2 down, putting it in the toke bank and you take the dollar off the $6 your paid, keeping $5 and replacing the $1 Place for the crew. You’ve made the boys happy and now as long as you keep winning the house is giving you the buck to bet for the crew, it has cost you a buck. The odds behind your bet is yours, odds behind the Crews bet (if any) is theirs.

"Stephen C" wrote: Yes, you could do it like that, or you could keep the $12 in your rack. What ever makes you happy. Remember, the extra dollar on your flat bet gives you the opportunity to get more odds on the table with no house advantage.

You can Place a $6 bet for yourself and a $1 Place bet alongside of it for the crew. When the point is made they are going to pay both at even money. The crew takes their $2 down, putting it in the toke bank and you take the dollar off the $6 your paid, keeping $5 and replacing the $1 Place for the crew. You’ve made the boys happy and now as long as you keep winning the house is giving you the buck to bet for the crew, it has cost you a buck. The odds behind your bet is yours, odds behind the Crews bet (if any) is theirs.

This right I add odds to dealers bet when I get hit on place bets till max .This is easy and less out of rack for lean times do come to often. I have not gotten to max odds so the odds part of win goes to me. Just to keep things going along .
The dealers like this.
Good Rolling.

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One thing I do when I am into a long hand is ask dealers where they would like additional tips that I am going to control. Most know what bets favor them and they will tell you where they want them. Remember this is when I am into a nice hand, other wise it is on the pass line with my pas line bet being capped, just like we teach in class.

I’m not sure that how you tip is as important as just "doing" it…..

I just got home from my local casino. I was on my second roll of the evening. The table was a $10 table with 3-4-5 odds. I was playing max odds each point. All evening I had been putting $2 on the hard way of whatever number was set. If it was an odd point, I used the hard 6 or 8. Each time the crew or the pit boss said "thank you".

On this roll, I was on my 4th point. (I had set and hit 2 5’s and a 6 on a total of 9 rolls.) This point was a 9 which is normally a good number for me. Being in a good zone, I felt myself anxious to roll. I got the dice, set them, concentrate and throw…a 4-5. Bang…4 points in 10 rolls. Then reality set in…I looked down and in my zone, I had forgotten the odds….nothing….nadda.

I dropped my head in disbelief. The pit boss immediately saw what happened. I commented to the stick next to me that I had forgotten to drop odds and asked him to help me to remember in the future especially when I was throwing. He acknowledged me and said he would help me in the future. With that the pit boss told me to "drop your max odds ($40) on the table. He then instructed the dealer to pay me the $60 + $10. I thanked him and the throw continued for 3 more points and a whole mess of numbers before I sevened out.

I feel sure that this "gift" would not have happened had I not be tipping. I immediately thought of all the advise to always tip the crew….just another example.

4pork Did you make more hard way bets for them or did you make more points .Did you have them on the line for those point wins ?
Most dealer like the odds of the line bet rather then the hard way bet .They know the math too .
Good Rolling. 😀 😀

Finisher..I kept them on the hardway point all evening for $2. I did not put them on the line. I’ve not done that before, but I’m learning.

4pork I like to put 1.00 on the line for them and add to the odds part as I make hits on the 6 or 8 or any number that I place . It seems that they will get into the game more that way .It always brings THANK YOUS .
I know some just add the odds right away but with my small BR I just prefer to ease into it .
Good Rolling. 😀 😀