What size table was it ?

Have you heard the story about the guy that comes in once a year with 1,000,000.00 and puts it on the pass line for one roll then leaves win or loose ? They ???? say that he is still ahead .
Good Rolling . 😀 😀

You mention nothing about his toss… Sorry, but anyone can set the dice. Sounds like he had some large cajones, maybe some skill, but lots of luck… Doubt this guy is on this board, but stranger things have happened here… If he was a real controlled roller, he would have gone to SL or SR 1. Why pitch from second base???

PatS,

Even with our skill, luck does have some effect on our results. From time to time one (or both) dice will get away from us and it will come up with a non seven number. It happens to the best. We just take enough care with our throw that these things happen only occasionally. If you take care with the dice, practice regularly, and have a soft throw you will eliminate most if not all randomness (is there such a word) from the dice, as the dice will not bounce around near as much. A soft toss is is essenial to the GTC throw.

Just a few thoughts.

Doc and Alligator Rose

I think the table was 14′ it was Ceaser’s A/C, I couldn’t tell what he was setting for as I was standing at SL1
Doc no he wasn’t tossing them softly as we are taught he was tossing them high steeper than 45*, however he was dleiberate if you know what i mean it appeared as if he was on a mission. It is very possible he just got lucky hit a nice score very quickly and said " I’m done" ? Not sure, all I know is I didn’t even throw the dice that day cause I made money as well and these days I need the money so I took it and ran. Although I’m improving with each time I go, I still haven’t been able to keep a good roll going long enough to be in the black yet.

It may be in my head but everytime I’m starting to do well, like I make a point or two as soon as the thought comes in my head, "wow I haven’t thrown a seven" seems like that’s it, there it is. And I find it hard to not think that…. Figures right just as I finally got comfortable with having all eyes on me and the pressure of possibly losing other people’s money in one throw, I’m finally calm and confident the other night people clapped for me and cheered me on because i got on a good roll I was able to make 4 points and three the Hard Way. I just know I can do much better, it’s just a slow process. I will tell ya what im good at but I know it’s just luck. When someone else’s shooting as Im 5 counting them, I get these feelings like "hop the 9’s" and boom he throws the 9 or what ever number I get the feeling on. Sunday night with one shooter I did it 3 times on three different numbers some guy next to me goes "how the hell are you doing that?" Lol just lucky I guess.. I wish I can guess when those Aces are coming!

How come you guys haven’t written any story’s about your sessions, I would like to read them from some of you veteran players.

Thanks,

If you get that gut feeling go with it . Just my penny’s worth.
Good Rolling. 😀 😀

Occasionally I have seen a high roller come into the game, place high house edge bets, win and leave. those events do tend to stick in my memory but I have also seen high rollers come in, bet like that and get wiped out. I have yet to see anyone who can throw a given number on command and I am sure that level of skill takes alot of work to come by if it is possible at all. My younger brother swears he does well playing hunches and someimes he does well but more often he loses his bankroll and is wanting to quit just about the time I’m getting warmed up. I don’t think you will get alot of support on this board for playing hunches but if it works for you, go getem tiger. My game is not about the big quick score. For me it’s about being able to play for a while without risking my entire gambling account on one session. I get a kick out of the occasional long roll where the table gets excited and everyone is winning a bet every so often.. For me it’s about having fun playing a game I love at a price I am comfortable with.

Throwing specific numbers isn’t going to happen…much. Controlled shooting is altering the probabilities of the game so we see a statistical control. But nailing the same number ("Yes, I will hit the twelve now…once again!") is too controlled to be real.

As far as intuition, I think it is real to an extent. But it could really be just selective memory. Watch.

"I just thought of John." He didn’t call. I forgot I thought of John.

"I just thought of Jane." She didn’t call. I forgot I thought of Jane.

Do this another 100 or more times. Now…

"I just thought of Thomas." Thomas called! Oh, my God, isn’t that amazing? Thomas called! I’ll never forget that. My intuition was really working!

We have to be careful about putting too much emphasis on things such as intuition when we are gambling. For the thousands of players coming to the caisno with "that feeling" they are going to win, most will not win, and they will (rather soon) forget they ever had "that feeling." But the ones who actually do win will remember "that feeling" and think something grand has happened. Randomness makes us think it isn’t random. Tricky devil!!

Well Frank I guess that’s why your where you are and I’m kicking myself in the ass from last night and all day today. It’s a shame I don’t get it through my thick head that you guys not only know what your doing you know what your talking about as well!

I screwed up last night BIG… I’m what I call a real "jerk off" I have no business thinking I can beat the odds and learned a huge lesson. I went to a casino with the specific goal to make money last night and refused to accept that it wasn’t happening and I kept on donating 100 after 100 like a real moron. Especially at a time when I really couldn’t afford it, I never thought I could be so irresponsible I was clearly out of control, because I could see no one was winning the table was ice cold but I kept trying, like a huge idiot!

The crazy thing is after being so disgusted all day today, I still had the urge to Pracrice. I practiced for about an hour or so a little while ago and go figure I did very well. It sux to be a big loser!

we have all been there Pat. Don’t be too hard on yourself. Hard lessons are usually the ones that stick. have a plan and stick to it and you will be fine. You are not a moron. You have taken the time to learn how to do it right and have the desire to do it the right way. Keep at it and you will be fine I am sure.

"fscobe" wrote: We have to be careful about putting too much emphasis on things such as intuition when we are gambling. For the thousands of players coming to the caisno with "that feeling" they are going to win, most will not win, and they will (rather soon) forget they ever had "that feeling." But the ones who actually do win will remember "that feeling" and think something grand has happened. Randomness makes us think it isn’t random. Tricky devil!!

But shouldn’t people come to the casino with "that feeling" or some level of confidence that will allow them to perform their absolute best at the tables? What good does learning dice control, betting strategy etc if you don’t have "that feeling " that today is the day that you "beat the casinos at their own game"?

"Reign_Supreme" wrote: [quote="fscobe"]We have to be careful about putting too much emphasis on things such as intuition when we are gambling. For the thousands of players coming to the caisno with "that feeling" they are going to win, most will not win, and they will (rather soon) forget they ever had "that feeling." But the ones who actually do win will remember "that feeling" and think something grand has happened. Randomness makes us think it isn’t random. Tricky devil!!

But shouldn’t people come to the casino with "that feeling" or some level of confidence that will allow them to perform their absolute best at the tables? What good does learning dice control, betting strategy etc if you don’t have "that feeling " that today is the day that you "beat the casinos at their own game"?

Yes you should feel that confidence each and every time you set foot in a casino. You must also be able to see it is not working today.
Any number of things keep this from working all the time so when it does not get out early. As for those hunches it is a given they will fail
at the worst time possible. Practice and record the results. If you can’t measure it it is not real. Play the game with the proven skill and smart betting and you won’t need those hunches. Hunches are nothing more than the gambler showing it self. That gambler dies hard in all of us but we are so much better off
after the funeral. Let it die and forget the hunches and feelings they are not real. They only serve the casino’s purpose of taking your money.

JRC

I will add one more true story on random luck (?). Playing in Pa and a guy colors in with a few hundred. Gets the dice next and puts 2 black chips on the 12, sets the dice on 12, and throws hard as he can along the wall and around the corner and hits the 12. Celebrates like crazy. Puts several hundred on the 12, does the same routine and hits the 12 again. Celebrates again, running in circles. Third roll – puts many more black chips on the 12 (I don’t know how much but a lot!), same routine and hits 12 again!! Celebrates all over the place, hits the wall, jumps up and down, screaming like nuts. Rolls the dice for the 4th time and misses, colors in and leaves, many thousands richer, a happy camper.

Of course, Frank is right -"Randomness makes us think it isn’t random." But boy, it sure did look like he knew what he was doing! Naturally, I had to try the same thing with absolutely zero success (only betting one dollar though!)

You provably gave it to much thought. 😀 😀