Your job as a dice controller is to change that negative -0.014141414141414 to a positive number.

Are you up to the challenge?

GTC uses a different method to solve the Pass Line Math

http://www.goldentouchcraps.com/passline.shtml

If you use my formula, you will find that everything that has a +(plus) in front of it equals a win.

If you use my formula, you will find that everything that has a -(minus) in front of it equals a loss.

[list=disc]The Comeout Roll:

[*]((8/36)-(4/36)) is the Comeout roll:[/*]
[*](8/36) are the 6 sevens and the 2 elevens natural winners(or 22.22%)[/*]
[*](4/36) are 2, 3, 12(craps) losers(or 11.11%)[/*]
[*](8/36)-(4/36)=11.11% potential win on the Comeout roll[/*][/list]

If you use my formula, you will find that everything that has a +(plus) in front of it equals a win.

[list=square] The Point Roll wins:

[*]+(1/36*3/9)*3 is the win on the Point of 4(or 0.0278)=2.78%[/*]
[*]+(1/36*4/10)*4 is the win on the Point of 5(or 0.0444)=4.44%[/*]
[*]+(1/36*5/11)*5 is the win on the Point of 6(or 0.0631)=6.31%[/*]
[*]+(1/36*5/11)*5 is the win on the Point of 8(or 0.0631)=6.31%[/*]
[*]+(1/36*4/10)*4 is the win on the Point of 9(or 0.0444)=4.44%[/*]
[*]+(1/36*3/9)*3 is the win on the Point of 10(or 0.0278)=2.78%[/*]
[*]Total of possible Point wins = 27.07%[/*][/list]

If you use my formula, you will find that everything that has a -(minus) in front of it equals a loss.

[list=circle] The Point Roll losses:

[*]-(1/36*6/9)*3 is the loss on the Point of 4(-0.0556)=-5.56%[/*]
[*]-(1/36*6/10)*4 is the loss on the Point of 5(-0.0667)=-6.67%[/*]
[*]-(1/36*6/11)*5 is the loss on the Point of 6(-0.0758)=-7.58%[/*]
[*]-(1/36*6/11)*5 is the loss on the Point of 8(-0.0758)=-7.58%[/*]
[*]-(1/36*6/10)*4 is the loss on the Point of 9(-0.0667)=-6.67%[/*]
[*]-(1/36*6/9)*3 is the loss on the Point of 10(-0.0556)=-5.56%[/*]
[*]The Total of potential losses on the Point Roll = (-0.3959)=-39.60%[/*][/list]

Breaking down the formula into its parts:

Natural winners = 22.22%
Craps losers =-11.11%
Total of potential Point wins = 27.07%
Total of potential Point losses =-39.60%

Total = -1.41%

CIII,
Thank you for the exacting and positive math explaining the results of our dice throws. However, I simply believe the GTC members like yourself and Frank and Dom’s books. Therefore, I follow GTC’s collect advise and avoid the ploppy gambler bets. Instead I have to concentrate on my release and avoiding big reds. Thanks, again your graphs and outstanding explanations. Set44 😀 😀 😀 😀

Set44 said, Therefore, I follow GTC’s collect advise and avoid the ploppy gambler bets. Instead I have to concentrate on my release and avoiding big reds.

I realize that the Math of Craps is rather dull reading and understand that readers would rather see posts that tell them how to avoid the seven and consistently hit their box numbers.

I have a method to not only avoid the seven , but to never toss the seven. I will have to put it into pictures and post it in the near future.

Thanks you for your reply.

It is interesting to note that various authors use different methods to arrive at the Math of Craps:

http://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/appendix/1/

Pass/Come

The probability of winning on the come out roll is pr(7)+pr(11) = 6/36 + 2/36 = 8/36.

The probability of establishing a point and then winning is pr(4)×pr(4 before 7) + pr(5)×pr(5 before 7) + pr(6)×pr(6 before 7) + pr(8)×pr(8 before 7) + pr(9)×pr(9 before 7) + pr(10)×pr(10 before 7) =

(3/36)×(3/9) + (4/36)×(4/10) + (5/36)×(5/11) + (5/36)×(5/11) + (4/36)×(4/10) + (3/36)×(3/9) =
(2/36) × (9/9 + 16/10 + 25/11) =
(2/36) × (990/990 + 1584/990 + 2250/990) =
(2/36) × (4824/990) = 9648/35640
The overall probability of winning is 8/36 + 9648/35640 = 17568/35640 = 244/495
The probability of losing is obviously 1-(244/495) = 251/495
The player’s edge is thus (244/495)×(+1) + (251/495)×(-1) = -7/495 ≈ -1.414%.

Right click on the chart and click on View Image to see the entire chart:

Right click on image and choose View Image to see full picture

Eagle Eye I hope Dom does not mind but I thought this may interest you.
Good Rolling. 😀 😀